Posted on 03/09/2014 11:24:55 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
I like the split, I am all in.
So how many more liberal senators and house members is this going to give us?
Are the rest of the states going to have a say in this?
The House would not change, that is based on population distribution.
Only the Senate would increase.
the 1/6 th that controls the water controls the other 5
Just as one state is obviously centered on LA and another on SD, so SF will demand a state of its own, rather than having the city and its hinterland split up between a state based on San Jose and one based on Sacramento.
I notice differences in the maps relating to whether Bakersfield goes with LA or with the Central Valley. I don't know which way they'd go if this becomes a reality, but maybe Santa Barbara wouldn't want to be the tail to the new LA state either.
The house is not going to change in any significance, its about population which stays the same.
Four of the six have a good chance to elector more conservative senators.
I'd say 3 have a good chance of electing Republicans, but they may not be what many people mean by conservatives.
I would add the blue counties of "North California" to "Silicon Valley" and call the resulting state North California. (It doesn't make sense to have the northern suburbs of San Francisco in another state).
The red counties of "North California" could be divided--those north of I-80 added to Jefferson, those south added to "Central California." Maybe "Sierra" would be a better name than Central California. Possibly add San Luis Obispo County to that state.
I would then rename "West California" to "South California" and "South California" to something else...maybe "Pacific" or "Pacifica." Maybe Orange County should be divided with the older suburbs near the L.A. County line going with what Draper calls West California, and the southern part going with what Draper calls South California.
Congress did a pretty good job on the whole of picking names of states when we had under 100 million people--in a nation of over 300 million people there should be people who can come up with some good names for the new states.
Sounds like a good idea, but I believe the site would be better nuked from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure....
“The House would not change, that is based on population distribution.
Only the Senate would increase.”
Woudnt this be a net gain for conservatives ?
Right now = 2 Liberal Senators forever
The split may be 6 Liberal and 6 Conservative Senators
This would appear to change from 100% liberal to 50%/50% ?
Tax payers would end up paying more and Mexico would take the lower states
I think so.
Is “egg sucking dog” state one of the names being considered?
Its a start just not to be Boxer and Finstein.
These areas are more conservative than people realise, they will be energized at having a real chance to elect the people who represent them and not just SF.
What?
That makes no sense.
The southern CA states would be less likely to be supportive of illegals.
Its the SF liberals who foisted them on the state.
Besides we own all the guns. (Jefferson state would too)
“Think thats bad? Wait until you have 6 separate states fighting over water rights, etc.”
It would seem most Water, Power and Food is generated /grown in the more conservative proposed states but still technically owned by the liberal states ie P.G.E, S.M.U.D. + various large Agrcultural holdings
Perhaps the poorer new states could dream up a nice tax for our exports?
I would be living in the poorest state of the union and would expect to be compensated by the evil rich.
Not that I'm aware of, but it might be worth translating it into the various Indian languages indigenous to California. If it sounds good, use it. Several of the existing states have names of Indian origin that are sufficiently garbled that no one is sure what the name means.
“These areas are more conservative than people realise, they will be energized at having a real chance to elect the people who represent them and not just SF.”
You are on with this point. I would live in Central Ca. I’d be happy to not have to pay the tax rates of current Ca.
Further it would be nice when I travel to not have to apologize for living in Ca.
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