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To: PapaNew

“Of course the moral and spiritual issues of the American People underlie our malaise, but those issue aren’t solved with politics - never have and never will.”

Indeed...then you are WASTING time trying to fight big government, because it is the RESULT of spiritual sickness.

While politics ARE NOT going to solve “Sin” and “Spiritual Deadness” problems per se.... but having “Godless” leaders that focus on the economy is deadly when moral decay - they could help delay is left unchallenged. A “Godless” President Obama has helped push forward the homosexual agenda. Where were those persons in leadership that would “shut down” government rather than let him do so? It certainly would not have been a “Rand Paul” or any other Libertarian. I was horrified when even Palin and Huckabee (a Baptist preacher) did not raise an extreme objection when Mr. Obama weakened our military by repealing DADT and allowed open homosexuals that are really starting to be a problem.

No, we need strong socially/morally conservative leaders that will make those moral/social issues priority. THEN the rest will fall into place. A great many of the problems with Obamacare are social/moral concerns.

If tomorrow we were able to cut the “big government” in half....the remaining sewer that America has become would still render are country weak and seriously ill. Cutting government is NOT the solution....it must be the result of the solution as I have previously stated.


263 posted on 03/09/2014 3:18:37 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Sola Veritas
Yours is an either/or or serial argument. Mine is a both or concurrent argument. My argument is to fight the political ans spiritual battles on two different fronts but at the same time, kind of like the U.S versus Germany & Japan. Although Nazi Germany was what spurred Japan as part of the Axis to attack us, we would have been in trouble if we had waited to beat Germany first before turning our attention to Japan. And we didn't need to beat Germany first before beating japan. They were independent campaigns.

In the same way, I don't believe we have to have a spiritual awakening and renewal first before we cut government, but I think we'll need it to maintain limited government. We must work towards both - but if we don't do everything necessary to cut government now, we may not have a free country in which to have a spiritual renewal in.

264 posted on 03/09/2014 3:58:25 PM PDT by PapaNew
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