Posted on 03/08/2014 2:52:54 PM PST by PaulCruz2016
You’re playing the same “gotcha” game that your buds on the Left play with the Tea Party, because kooks show up at their rallies.
Others of your Leftist buddies play the game with Christians, because the Westboro nuts call themselves Christians.
I know it’s a lot easier to smear - the Tea Party, Christianity - and Rand Paul — than to meet them on the grounds of argument and debate, but the tactic is getting old, and smart folks see through it.
The Paul's win straw polls all the time and it is meaningless.
Half CPAC attendees are kids, hardly representative of the conservative voting public.
Many young people gravitate towards liberalism and to a lesser extent libertarianism - the smart ones usually grow out of it. Ron Paul knows this, which is why he stopped bothering to run as a Libertarian.
“Of course the moral and spiritual issues of the American People underlie our malaise, but those issue aren’t solved with politics - never have and never will.”
Indeed...then you are WASTING time trying to fight big government, because it is the RESULT of spiritual sickness.
While politics ARE NOT going to solve “Sin” and “Spiritual Deadness” problems per se.... but having “Godless” leaders that focus on the economy is deadly when moral decay - they could help delay is left unchallenged. A “Godless” President Obama has helped push forward the homosexual agenda. Where were those persons in leadership that would “shut down” government rather than let him do so? It certainly would not have been a “Rand Paul” or any other Libertarian. I was horrified when even Palin and Huckabee (a Baptist preacher) did not raise an extreme objection when Mr. Obama weakened our military by repealing DADT and allowed open homosexuals that are really starting to be a problem.
No, we need strong socially/morally conservative leaders that will make those moral/social issues priority. THEN the rest will fall into place. A great many of the problems with Obamacare are social/moral concerns.
If tomorrow we were able to cut the “big government” in half....the remaining sewer that America has become would still render are country weak and seriously ill. Cutting government is NOT the solution....it must be the result of the solution as I have previously stated.
In the same way, I don't believe we have to have a spiritual awakening and renewal first before we cut government, but I think we'll need it to maintain limited government. We must work towards both - but if we don't do everything necessary to cut government now, we may not have a free country in which to have a spiritual renewal in.
If you want to return to small limited government, then support the people who gave it to us, and who are fighting for it now, the conservatives, not the liberals and libertarians, they are the ones who took over in the 1960s.
Social liberalism creates, imports, and breeds, more democrat voters, and it even changes conservative voters and their offspring into ever more liberal voters, just look at how far left the nation has moved in 60 years, today, even conservatives are arguing about abortion and gay marriage, and a homosexual military, drugs, and porn, a weak military, and things that were inconceivable in the past.
Yeah, new guy, I’m a leftist, just ask anybody here.
I give a hat tip to anyone and everyone who pings me to a zot, so that I can continue the long-time FR tradition of announcing a banning.
Ansel12 (courtesy ping) was the only one this time, but there have been as many as five.
You are a wise man indeed, my friend.
When you adapt the tactics of the Left, to that extent you’re a Leftist. Smearing Rand Paul by showing a photo of a nut at a Ron Paul rally — a woman who could be a plant for all you know — that’s the tactic of the Left., It’s what they do to the Tea Party in the same way.
Did I call you?
Thankfully not thought 8 percent is too high for him.
I'm a freedom lover and a freedom fighter. I don't know what a "conservative" is. I'm not interested in labels like some are around here and I'm not interested in keeping the status quo. I'm interested in life, liberty, and the free pursuit of one's happiness however they choose as long as it doesn't interfere with some else's freedom. I'll support those who support freedom from government coercion. As I said, politically, everything else is chump change
So throwing a lot of words around while you reject conservatism.
A conservative that only embraces part of conservatism, is doomed to discover that social liberalism destroys economic conservatism.
Rather than waiting to discover that fact of life, he should just look at the last 60 years and see how social liberalism has led to an electorate that votes liberal.
Evidently your liberal parts are more important to you than conservatism.
If you want to return to small limited government, then support the people who gave it to us, and who are fighting for it now, the conservatives, not the liberals and libertarians, they are the ones who took over in the 1960s.
Social liberalism creates, imports, and breeds, more democrat voters, and it even changes conservative voters and their offspring into ever more liberal voters, just look at how far left the nation has moved in 60 years, today, even conservatives are arguing about abortion and gay marriage, and a homosexual military, drugs, and porn, a weak military, and things that were inconceivable in the past.
Why don’t you tell me what “conservatism” is?
Why don’t you explain what post 264 says and what your arguments are against it?
Well, for over a year here on FR the official POV was: "no Romneys!.....No Romneys!!!!......NO ROMNEYS!!!!!!!!!"
Then, a few weeks before the election, there was a quiet: "ok, Romneys I guess, if ya feel ya must to beat Obama."
Things change, and if it turns out to be Rand versus Hillary, I think there will be few Freepers who are inclined to stay home or vote third party.
“This is meaningless”
It is only meaningless if your guy/gal is losing. If your guy/gal is winning then it is foretelling of future events.
If Palin had won it would not be meaningless. If Cruz had won it would not be meaningless. If Christie had won, then it would be meaningless.
Nope. All the GOPe's horses and all the GOPe's men can't put the RINO together again.
“IMO, not all that splash around have any expectations of winning the prize.”
I think so. A lot of people are running for vice president or to do well enough so that they have a better shot at 2020.
I still think the nominee will be from Bush, Santorum, Romney or Ryan.
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