Posted on 03/05/2014 11:37:04 AM PST by Oliviaforever
Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann Bachmann has accused American Jews of having “sold out Israel” by voting for President Obama in 2008 and 2012.
“The Jewish community gave him their votes, their support, their financial support,” Bachmann told Tony Perkins on the Family Research Center's radio channel, “and as recently as last week, 48 Jewish donors who are big contributors to the president wrote a letter...to the Democrat [sic] senators in the U.S. Senate to tell them to not advance sanctions against Iran.”
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How am I supposed to respond? By telling you that you don’t know history? Telling you that you are not laughing in the face of death right now, you are laughing in the shadow of those who have died before you?
You know your people and past and yourself much, much better than I do.
Let me speak simply as an American. In my lifetime my country has finessed and forgotten and forgiven itself into its present, perhaps irredeemable, state.
Even here on Free Republic we don’t seem to know how to rouse our compatriots for the great battles ahead.
What I do know is that as fighters we want to laugh at death and evil, not with it.
I wonder how she would respond to an American Jew who asserts that she sells out Christianity. Or that she is a self-hating Norweigen because she opposes Norweigen social welfare policies.
She’s right.
If you’d like to be on or off, please FR mail me.
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I like Michelle but disagree with her here. Her position is based on the canard that Jews care about Jews, and are separate from the nation they live in. The fact of the matter is that most Jews vote on other issues which relate to their homeland, and that's not Israel. As a demographic American Jews tend to be liberal on domestic issues, and it's fair to say as the demographic most opposed to the Iraq war (I know, us neocon Jews caused it, but we're a minority in the community), they wouldn't support aggressive actions on the part of Israel any more than America. We can all talk this out, after all. Of course as a small minority, if America "sells out" Israel (Israel will cope), it will be America doing it, all of us, mostly Christian. My guess Michelle wins no votes for Republicans here
Well, yeh!
It isn’t theirs to sell.
Bachmann, on the other hand, had an extensive exposure to Israel as a teenager, and has always been pro-Israel and philo-Semitic. Her husband comes from a Swiss family which saved Jews from the Nazis during the Holocaust. Sorry to see she's stepping down from elective office now.
BTW, the headline on the posted article is deceiving. Bachmann didn't say all US Jews are selling out Israel. She was limiting her critique to Jewish Obamatons.
It’s accurate that they would sell out Israel, if they could. But they cannot sell Israel, because they don’t own it, and Israel’s support in the US is not dependent on American Jews, even if they did own it. These are the people who were ok with turning back the boats.
What is wrong with calling a capo a capo?
Yet the greater her Honor, and I believe, her reward in Heaven.
Yes, because their first America-dwelling ancestors were either Bundists or Socialists (the REAL McCoy ones) from Europe or they were originally observant, but threw their religion out with the garbage in an effort to become more “American” and less a separate group, because of a cultural memory of the horrific anti-semitic brutality of much of the Europe they fled. They figured, don’t be different, be as totally non-differentiated “American” as you possibly can, so that you will not be singled out again for persecution. They stopped observing holidays (also because there was no such thing as not working Saturdays), stopped eating kosher food, stopped dressing differently. Their offspring, the offspring of that offspring and finally the latest generation picked up on this discarding of Jewish ways. With the discarding of Jewish observances came a natural failure to have a reverence for Israel which is an important part of authentic Jewish identity. Thus, you have the current leftwing liberal “Jews” who may not, according to Jewish law, actually be Jewish due to intermarriage, and who lack a cultural identity, including a devotion to Israel. Their natural Jewish empathy has been co-opted to serve groups other than Jews, such as blacks, etc. It is therefore little wonder that these latter-day Jews or half-Jews have little to no identity with Israel or see its importance.
I am a Jew and I’ve said harsher things.
Unfortunately, most US Jews sold out the Torah long ago . . . and that’s much, much worse.
Who even wants support from "the Reform community?" That horse left the barn a hundred years ago.
But Jews are separate from all other nations, by definition. This separation is similar to that between the holy and the secular and Shabbat from the rest of the week and is mentioned as such in the havdalah prayer.
`Am Yisra'el is a Theocratic nation in exile and until the "enlightenment" was actually an autocephalous religious community. And things were probably better back then (there were no "branches," for one thing).
True, HaShem through the Prophets and Sages instructed Jews to be loyal to their lands of exile and to pray for them. But Jews are first and foremost the ancient Jewish Theocratic polity in exile, and that must never be forgotten. The fact that it has been is why Judaism has been turned into a mere "religion" with liberal "denominations."
This.
Great post!
At least this is what I understand.
“You would probably faint if you were to read some of my private communications, Baccy. I must be a lot more Anglo-Saxon than I thought!”
How one says things in private vs. how things are said in public, by a public figure, are expected to be different.
“Who even wants support from “the Reform community?””
Me. They could help shift the balance of power in a USA election and give Israel a more-reliable ally.
“What is wrong with calling a capo a capo?”
It all depends on the goal.
Are you trying to persuade the capo to cease the collaboration?
Or just given him a well-deserved insult because it makes you feel better?
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