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Buchanan speaks against those who think American soldiers dying any chance possible makes our nation stronger.

Too bad the current war hawks don't take the lesson of Reagan's restraint to heart.

1 posted on 03/03/2014 7:32:33 PM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

It’s like this Ukraine situation is an ensemble play and here comes Pat to play the cantankerous paleo. When will Ron Paul weigh in? Or has he already?


2 posted on 03/03/2014 7:50:31 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Hey Pat!

If Ike had taken action in 1956 many of those subsequent aggressions WOULD NOT HAVE OCCURRED!!


3 posted on 03/03/2014 7:51:30 PM PST by G Larry (Did You Like That Better?)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
Russophobia is rampant and the op-ed pages are ablaze here.

Really? I'm afraid I can't recall any particular calls for U.S. military intervention in any of my usual sources. I'd oppose them myself out of an appreciation for what is militarily feasible in the situation, but I'd need a little help finding them. Thanks in advance.

4 posted on 03/03/2014 7:55:40 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

I stand with Putin on this. The only thing I ask of him is that a referendum is held to “ratify” his taking of Crimea.


5 posted on 03/03/2014 7:56:05 PM PST by impimp
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

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12 posted on 03/03/2014 8:07:42 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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This is pretty much on the money. We do not have a stake here. We do not have a side. If the EU wants to pony up and go battle the Bear, they have my blessing, but we need to stay out of it.


16 posted on 03/03/2014 8:14:17 PM PST by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

Anyone thinking we should go anywhere into the Ukraine militarily is either stands to make money off it or has zero intention of ever serving in that effort.


17 posted on 03/03/2014 8:15:49 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

I may disagree with Pat Buchanan on a few issues, but this isn’t one of them.

I’m not particularly happy about a Russian gangster demonstrating to the rest of the world that he can bugger eastern European countries while the west watches on and wags fingers over Russia’s attitude towards gays. But, that doesn’t mean we have a lot of options left open to us at this point in the game.

We have an economically and militarily impotent EU continuing to be militarily and economically impotent with no signs of changing prior to sweeping Islamic revolution from their quickly expanding and rapidly radicalizing immigrant populations. We have an effeminate and ineffectual nitwit in the oval office that is busy trying to drive a stake through the heart of the American dream. Of course Russia is going to run rough-shod over the world stage, they’d be stupid not to.

Maybe Mr. Obama can threaten to write a sternly worded letter? Maybe we can have a few more transvestite news reporters bitch about how mean Russia is? Sadly those responses would be more rational than throwing blood on the fire, and far more likely than the west engaging in realpolitik and taking serious steps to preserve the economic and military interests of western nations.


18 posted on 03/03/2014 8:16:45 PM PST by jameslalor
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
Pat's got it right here.

EVERYONE in DC needs to step back and twice consider every word before speaking.

I saw a quote from Condelezza Rice concerning the WH deliberations in 2008 over the Georgian affair.

Essentially, and this is not a quote, she said nobody was willing to put boots on the ground or shoot at the Russians. So, Bush ordered everyone to STFU.

Problem is, Obama was POTUS in a few months and he took no action to begin to pressure the Russians.

Energy Independence at home...with a surplus which drives down prices...is the BEST weapon against Russia. And, it's a program that should have started 5 years ago, at least.

19 posted on 03/03/2014 8:17:37 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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For the record, the trade statistics between the United States and Russia, for those keeping score:

http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c4621.html

2013

TOTAL 2013

Exports from US to Russia: $11,164,000,000

Imports to US from Russia: $26,961,500,000

Net Trade Balance: $-15,797,500,000

Boeing (a key US defense contractor) by their own admission:

“The Boeing Company has maintained a cooperative relationship with Russia and the Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS) since the era of the former Soviet Union. In the 1970s, Boeing was a part of the historic U.S.-Soviet space mission, Apollo-Soyuz, when spacecraft from both countries docked in orbit.”

To find the complete PDF online on Boeing’s website, just google:

boeing russia backgrounder

Why would a key defense contractor engage in such high-tech trade with a supposed “enemy” nation ? Obviously to the people making the real decisions, Russia is a trading partner, not an enemy.

IMHO, it makes no sense at all to bang war drums, given that it looks like globalist bankers/traders are running pretty much everything as they please while keeping the fact well-hidden (in plain sight) from the public.


36 posted on 03/03/2014 8:47:16 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
When Red Army tank divisions crushed the Hungarian freedom fighters in 1956, killing 50,000, Eisenhower did not lift a finger. When Khrushchev built the Berlin Wall, JFK went to Berlin and gave a speech.

Ike came under harsh criticism from conservatives for doing nothing about Hungary, and conservatives were virtually unanimous in condemning JFK for doing nothing about the Berlin Wall. It's amazing to see conservatives today citing these cases as examples as to how we should conduct foreign policy.

39 posted on 03/03/2014 8:53:10 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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Not that I’m a pacifist but one should remember that we entered World War I with Woodrow Wilson (Progressive Movement), World War II with FDR, the Korean War with Truman, the Vietnam War with John Kennedy/Lyndon Johnson, and Afghanistan with Bill Clinton.

Remember this next time people start talking about all the war mongers.


46 posted on 03/04/2014 2:54:44 AM PST by HarleyD ("... letters are weighty, but his .. presence is weak, and his speech of no account.")
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So, to all the warhawks on here, what exactly is Ukraine's strategic value to the U.S.? And what would you have our country do, actually attack Russia? With our severely weakened and degraded military?

We're not dealing with Iraq or North Korea here, but the big bear itself, and in case no one has noticed, we're outgunned right now in the worst possible way.

Food for serious thought.

47 posted on 03/04/2014 3:13:30 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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No doubt Russia has assets in the area and has legitimate reasons for trying to protect them.

As concerned as we are, we have as much right to get involved over there as Russia would have if all-a-sudden there was a civil war in Mexico or Canada.


58 posted on 03/04/2014 7:58:49 AM PST by djf (OK. Well, now, lemme try to make this clear: If you LIKE your lasagna, you can KEEP your lasagna!)
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With Vladimir Putin’s dispatch of Russian troops into Crimea, our war hawks are breathing fire. Russophobia is rampant and the op-ed pages are ablaze here.

Barack Obama should tune them out and reflect on how Cold War presidents dealt with far graver clashes with Moscow.

When Red Army tank divisions crushed the Hungarian freedom fighters in 1956, killing 50,000, Eisenhower did not lift a finger. When Khrushchev built the Berlin Wall, JFK went to Berlin and gave a speech.

And I'll bet at the time ol' Pat was horrified by Ike's and Jack's liberal wimpiness and beating the war drums with full gusto.

But of course now Communism has "fallen" and all American military power does now is benefit those conspiratorial Jews, so things are different. Pat goes from "warmonger" to peacenik.

Hasn't Pat heard that some of his racial brothers are part of the Ukrainian resistance to Putin? He needs to get with the program!

63 posted on 03/04/2014 1:15:54 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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