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NATO warns Russia to cease and desist in Ukraine
Euronews ^ | 02/03 14:09 CET

Posted on 03/02/2014 3:10:12 PM PST by annalex

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To: cripplecreek

101 posted on 03/02/2014 4:46:43 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: lodi90
Nothing else will happen for now.

You may be right; if Putin manages not to irritate them further, guarantees the stability and borders of the Balt states, and makes a bilateral deal with Ukraine over Crimea, NATO will go and eat more cheese with Riesling and everyone will come out ahead. Ukraine has no reason to want Crimea anyway, it is not their organic part.

Possibly, that is Putin's game too.

However, as the Maidan showed, things often do not go like planned. Imagine some Russians in Estonia start taking over regional government offices etc. Now Estonia is a NATO member. What then?

102 posted on 03/02/2014 4:47:40 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex

see post 35


103 posted on 03/02/2014 4:47:46 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: lodi90
Nothing else will happen for now.

Sitzkrieg.

104 posted on 03/02/2014 4:50:10 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: jimbo123

FRiend, That isn't a bander fascist driving the tank. Or under it. That's your freedom fighters in Vilnius 23 years ago. Running over girls with tanks. You and Putin keep good company. I hope you are proud. Same exact unit from Pskov that just invaded Ukraine, btw. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Own it all, FRiend.

105 posted on 03/02/2014 4:52:35 PM PST by lodi90
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To: dfwgator

obama will have Kerry shake his finger at them!


106 posted on 03/02/2014 4:57:18 PM PST by dalereed
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To: lodi90

To a Sov, everyone else is a Nazi, especially if they get to ride in a tank. This mentality, by the way, is why there is nothing as much in the national interest of Russia as a good military defeat. We can dream...


107 posted on 03/02/2014 4:58:05 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: Grampa Dave; Victor
"I like this man....I really do."

I grew up in the Pittsburgh, PA area in the 1970s and 80s. Needless to say, I was a Steeler fan and it was a good time to be a Steelers fan. I look at Putin in much the same way I viewed Tom Landry and Roger Staubach. They were, "the enemy," but I had the utmost respect for them, because they always acquitted themselves well, and their competence was always on display.

108 posted on 03/02/2014 4:58:34 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: annalex
This mentality, by the way, is why there is nothing as much in the national interest of Russia as a good military defeat.

I don't think losing to the Japs in 1905 turned out well for them in the long-run.

109 posted on 03/02/2014 5:00:24 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

I mean the Sovietland now mistakenly called “Russia”. These people derive their national identity from their tanks.


110 posted on 03/02/2014 5:02:33 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex
The large majority of the Russian people have been,historically,willing to live like savages.And over history Russia's rulers have been more than willing to rule like savages.

Vlad Putin is no different than the rest...*except* that today most of Europe keenly depends on Russia's hydrocarbon exports.

111 posted on 03/02/2014 5:08:24 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Stalin Blamed The Kulaks,Obama Blames The Tea Party)
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To: annalex
Well if the Russians try to move into Western Ukraine, they're going to face these guys...


112 posted on 03/02/2014 5:11:23 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: annalex

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia


113 posted on 03/02/2014 5:13:54 PM PST by Jacob Kell (The last good thing that the UN did was Korea.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

The only thing girly-man Baraq accomplished was to assure Vlad that he could do as he pleases.

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Probably wanted to remind Vlad of his promise of flexibility....


114 posted on 03/02/2014 5:15:52 PM PST by Bigg Red (O LORD, our Lord, how majestic is your name in all the earth! Ps 8)
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To: Grampa Dave

That’s an interesting photo. I have never seen a picture of Putin looking amused.


115 posted on 03/02/2014 5:18:23 PM PST by Bigg Red (O LORD, our Lord, how majestic is your name in all the earth! Ps 8)
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To: Bigg Red

116 posted on 03/02/2014 5:19:18 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Yipes!


117 posted on 03/02/2014 5:25:37 PM PST by Bigg Red (O LORD, our Lord, how majestic is your name in all the earth! Ps 8)
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To: M Kehoe

I have read this weekend that American Tanks have returned to Germany.


118 posted on 03/02/2014 5:25:38 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Gay State Conservative
live like savages [...] rule like savages.

That is not true entirely. There were two periods when it was true: when Russia was occupied by the Golden Orde (13-15 centuries) and by the Soviet Power in various stages of mimicry (1917-now). But it is not true of Imperial Russia which had local government since ~1860, rapidly growing capitalist economy (since about the same time if not earlier), well developed legal system with property rights and trial by jury, rapidly growing levels of education, and full integration into the European culture. The Soviet period is, of course horrible and it had a horrible effect on the Russian national psyche. It cannot be said to be the same people as prior to 1917.

But, anyway, what is your point? That we should ignore them, shoot them off, or what?

119 posted on 03/02/2014 5:31:02 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: beandog

I was going to post that but ya beat me to it.


120 posted on 03/02/2014 5:31:46 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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