Posted on 03/02/2014 12:27:48 PM PST by Rusty0604
Crimea is the frontline of this silent war, writes Roland Oliphant. But in Moscow, the propaganda battle is being played out at full volume
The Russian occupation of central Simferopol and the local airport terminal two days ago was as much for the benefit of the world's media as anything else.
Claims of mass defections in the Russian press, including that of the Ukrainian fleet's flagship, the frigate Hetman Sahaidachny, were impossible to confirm on Sunday evening. Ministers in Ukraine have denied the claims.
Russia's state owned media has broadcast several questionable reports about that Ukraine crisis since it began.
In possibly the most outrageous stretching of the truth so far Vesti, a Russian rolling news channel, on Sunday used old footage from protests in Kiev to claim fighting had broken out between police and revolutionary militants in Crimea.
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Also, does that include all of the Ukraine? Or minus the Western regions?
All the Russian soldiers in Crimea appear to be men.
Not a female bearing arms among them
How can they possibly hope to win a war?
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She was half Greek and the Russians considered them enemies of the state so they went on a visit to Odessa and ended up in Turkey before WW 11.
Good thing they left, the Russians exterminated or deported entire villages of Greeks and Turks soon after.
The Russians wanted their land.
She went back in late 1998 and all these former Greek and Turk villages were all Russian now.
read for yourself
this estimated was 7 million but there are accounts of 10 million.
I have no idea if this includes The germans, Greeks, Turks, Polish who all other non Russian ethnicities deemed unworthy and were wiped out and replaced with Russians transplants.
http://www.historyplace.com/worldhistory/genocide/stalin.htm
And Putin continues to terrorize the region.
4o% of the population is either Ukrainian or Tatar. It would have been more like 90% if Stalin hadn’t ethnically cleansed the Tartars. Those Russians have only been there since the 1940’s. And Russia signed a treaty with Ukraine guaranteeing its borders. ukraine lived up to its end of the bargain by giving up its nuclear arsenal, and giving Russia the use of Sevastopol. The only real argument here is “ might makes right”. Seems lots of Putin a## kissers are okay with that.
In the immortal words of Otter in Animal House:
“You f##ked up! you trusted us.”
They trusted us, the Brits and most stupidly of all, the Russians.
so true.
Actually, the Russians have been there since the late 18th Century when Catherine overthrew the Crimean Tatar Khanate and made it part of Russia.
>this estimated was 7 million
I have heard it stated that it was the total death toll across the USSR. Bear in mind the Ukraine wasn’t the only area suffering from famine. Southern Russia was just as hard hit, and other areas such as Kazakhstan and even the Volga region were affected.
One modern calculation for famine deaths in the Ukraine that uses demographic data, including those recently available from Soviet archives, narrows the losses to about 3.2 million or, allowing for the lack of precise data, 3 million to 3.5 million.
They were a minority. The vast majority of residents were the Tartars, Ukrainians, Greeks, Germans,Turks and Armenians. When Stalin Ethnically cleansed the Crimea an estimated 45 % of the Tartars died in the process.
Actually, the whole country was under Russia as far back as the 18th century. Before that, it had been (for about 200 years) part of the Ottoman Empire.
I’m certainly no supporter of either Stalin or Putin, but there’s much more of a backstory than you say.
Also, there’s good reason not to trust the Tatars, who carried out slave raids in the Crimea as late as the mid-18th century. The (European) slaves were sold to the Turks.
Even as recently as yesterday, the loony Dagestan warlord came forward and offered his “services” to the Tatars in Crimea. So it’s a very complicated situation.
And looking at an ethnolinguistic map of Russia, Putin would be wise not to open a Wilsonian self determination can of worms, or Russia could find itself reduced to “Muscovy”.
The bottom line is Russia violated a neighbors territory with military force. period.
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