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Obama, Ukraine and the Price of Weakness
Commentary Magazine ^ | March 2, 2014 | Jonathan S. Tobin

Posted on 03/02/2014 2:42:09 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: RummyChick

The most worrisome and largely overseen factor of the ongoing Ukrainian tragedy, to me, is the mighty Neo-Nazi presence among the opposition hard-core militants from ultra-right nationalistic parties and movements. The threat posed by those forces should be not under-estimated, especially in the context of rapidly rising ultra-national forces all over Europe, the current. new ugly ‘fashion’.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/14553


41 posted on 03/02/2014 6:35:44 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

So both sides are bad and it’s none of our business. Is that your position?


42 posted on 03/02/2014 6:35:59 AM PST by lodi90
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To: lodi90

No, but last night several of you were claiming that talk of Neo Nazis was pure Russian Propaganda. Nothing to see here..Move along.

That is not so

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/177113

The fact that the Neo Nazis were backed by the US (and probably the CIA) for destabilization is frightening.

But then again, the CIA will use whoever can help them with their goals.

But now you have a Neo Nazi in a Chief Prosecutor’s role with people here saying it is no big deal.

This is a powder keg that has the potential to lead to a WW III..or it can go quietly in the night to Russia taking over Crimea and everyone in the West forgets about it.

I dont know what is going to happen..but I do know I would get out of there if I was a Jew.


43 posted on 03/02/2014 6:42:56 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Already starting to hear from the left that this is indeed Bush’s fault for appeasing Putin all those years and allowing Vladimir to build back the Russian military. I figured there would be an Obama-proof excuse...


44 posted on 03/02/2014 6:50:31 AM PST by Hatteras
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To: RummyChick

I see nothing about a Ukrainian pogrom on Israeli news pages. You can worry about it all you want but it doesn’t seem to be a big issue in Israel right now.

This not going to end with the Crimea. The murdering KGB thug wants all of Ukraine. You seem ok with that. What if he wants a chunk of the Canadian arctic? Or oil at $200 a barrel? You ok with that also?


45 posted on 03/02/2014 7:27:11 AM PST by lodi90
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To: lodi90

You are extrapolating beyond Putin’s ability.

He has strong preSoviet precedent for following the 1760’s precedent of Catherine the great to secure access to the Black Sea.

He has the limited military strength to intrude in the Crimea and perhaps even all Ukraine. Beyond that he is limited. He is not in the best of financial health to go far beyond his home field.


46 posted on 03/02/2014 7:32:25 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: lodi90

Turning a blind eye, eh???

Plenty of Israeli sites are worried about the Neo Nazis rising to power in the Ukraine and elsewhere.

I guess you will wait to pay attention until much much later...as many did with Hitler.


47 posted on 03/02/2014 7:46:53 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Obama has zero power. Obama is powerless. Putin has Obama blackmailed. Our entire country is paying for Obama’s personal history. Why does congress allow a blackmailed queer to continue occupying the Oval Office?


48 posted on 03/02/2014 7:58:30 AM PST by abclily
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Maybe you will change your mind if this comes out as true

“The new U.S.- and EU-backed government in Kiev has overthrown the anti-Nazi propaganda laws previously in place in Ukraine. The action opens the way for normalizing National Socialism in Ukrainian Society. Ukraine is now the only country in the world to openly embrace Nazi ideology, writing, and thought. “

http://www.opednews.com/articles/News-Flashes-from-the-Grou-by-George-Eliason-Democracy_Governors_Kidnapped_Mayor-140228-809.html


49 posted on 03/02/2014 8:04:43 AM PST by RummyChick
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true or Russian Propaganda. Not enough info out there to determine:

4176 – Bill to repeal law penalizing Nazi propaganda

http://www.newgreektv.com/index.php/world/item/3910-new-ukraine-government-seeks-to-ban-minority-government

The person last night who claimed that the Ukraine would NEVER have anything to do with Nazis ought to be rethinking his position because there is enough info out there to see the coalition with Neo Nazis.


50 posted on 03/02/2014 8:18:01 AM PST by RummyChick
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