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CommieCore Math

Posted on 03/01/2014 6:02:12 PM PST by dontreadthis



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To: funfan

That’s not an L by the word answer its an arrow to the answer.


81 posted on 03/01/2014 7:52:06 PM PST by ully2
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To: funfan

I could never figure it out myself and I was supposed to teach it, and anyway I considered it miseducation. I closed my door and I stuck to the “old fashioned way”.


82 posted on 03/01/2014 7:52:39 PM PST by FrdmLvr ("WE ARE ALL OSAMA, 0BAMA!" al-Qaeda terrorists who breached the American compound in Benghazi)
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To: RandallFlagg
raised four kids with standard arithmetic and would of taught it to them at home myself if they ever brought that silliness home from school...
83 posted on 03/01/2014 7:53:36 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: moose07

That’s kinda cool. I’d never seen it before.


84 posted on 03/01/2014 7:55:53 PM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is)
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To: Kennard

This is our first year of homeschooling, and their textbooks have the, “Old-Fashioned,” way. However, my oldest Son was in public school last year, and learned how to multiply using latices while there.


85 posted on 03/01/2014 7:58:02 PM PST by RandallFlagg ("I said I never had much use for one. Never said I didn't know how to use it." --Quigley)
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To: Kennard

that makes a great deal of sense


86 posted on 03/01/2014 8:05:47 PM PST by dontreadthis
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To: 4Liberty

They want to somehow get rid of any rote memorization. It is stupid as all it does is make math a lot more complicated. They, common core, are all about the “process” but not as worried about the outcome.


87 posted on 03/01/2014 8:12:02 PM PST by prof.h.mandingo (Buck v. Bell (1927) An idea whose time has come (for extreme liberalism))
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To: moose07
that's not my question, i ask was it easier??? pls see post #79
88 posted on 03/01/2014 8:12:24 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: gitmo

I disagree. I don't think a cashier picked at random would (or should) hand you back three singles, then a five, then a ten, and then two more singles (or a two dollar bill) for change. I believe most cashiers would just hand you a twenty right off the bat after using good "old fashioned" mental subtraction; and hopefully, while handing it over, they double-checks their work, saying "12 and 20 make 32".


89 posted on 03/01/2014 8:13:38 PM PST by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Chode

The lattice in the example is one additional step then the traditional method; 11 vs 10 excluding the drawing of the lattice to help keep the numbers diagonally aligned.


90 posted on 03/01/2014 8:16:07 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric
i still don't see how it's easier... also pls see post #79
91 posted on 03/01/2014 8:18:49 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: RandallFlagg

I’m embarrased to say I didn’t tumble to it, even though I noticed the product values in the boxes.

Of course ( ahem, ) it’s entirely equivalent to standard multiplication, except that the “carries” are deferred and added up along the diagonals.

Very clever! ( Note there’s still a carry though, in the form of the green 1 . )


92 posted on 03/01/2014 8:20:33 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: dr_lew

Love it.


93 posted on 03/01/2014 8:26:23 PM PST by firebrand
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To: Chode

My Son explained it to me:
“Take the top number of the problem, and put the bottom number vertically to the right. Keep the numbers equally separated as you would the old way, and put boxes to the lower left side. Then multiply the numbers at the top with the numbers at the side and put the answer in the boxes that they cross, then add diagonally lower left. The answer will ride along the outside of the boxed on the lower left from top to lower right.”

Mind you, I’ve been drinking.
If my above interpretation of what my 13-year-old Son said to me makes no sense to you whatsoever, pour yourself a glass of Scotch.

*hic*


94 posted on 03/01/2014 8:31:10 PM PST by RandallFlagg ("I said I never had much use for one. Never said I didn't know how to use it." --Quigley)
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To: Kennard
My view is that these new methods are designed to prevent parents from helping their kids with homework.

Brilliant observation. I could not agree with you more.

Since the standard is that students must "show their work," even if a parent could teach the "proper" way to do arithmetic, the student would fail on the tests for not showing their work.

This is a farce and forces me to further consider bringing a child into this world.

95 posted on 03/01/2014 8:32:08 PM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: ully2

Yeah someone already told me. Good thing I am not in the math class.


96 posted on 03/01/2014 8:36:05 PM PST by funfan
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To: RandallFlagg
all out of Glenlivet, Sapphire will have to do... 8^)
97 posted on 03/01/2014 8:38:28 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Chode

Easier to learn and use, yes.
Parents had no problems with it either.

The entire sum is broken down into small pieces, and is far less prone to confusion.
Setting out is faster as well.
They taught us both systems, the traditional system producing mistake after mistake. The Chinese square has produced no mistakes in all the years I’ve used it.
Hope this helps. :)


98 posted on 03/01/2014 8:38:36 PM PST by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day.)
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To: so_real

Today the cash registers calculate the change for you, so the cashiers go from the highest denomination to the lowest. Back in the day, I was a cashier on the old-fashioned kind where you had to thump the thing 20 times if somebody bought 20 items at the same price. You’d hold down the right keys with both hands and thump with the heel of your right hand at the same time.

Then you went from the price total backwards to the amount the customer had given you—the lowest denomination first, etc., and then you counted it out aloud as you gave it to the customer. Oddly, the lines moved faster than they do today.

You were also “bonded.” Someone would purposely leave a their change behind and walk away, and if you called him back, you proved yourself honest.


99 posted on 03/01/2014 8:40:41 PM PST by firebrand
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To: dr_lew

> “There are 10 kinds of people, those who understand binary and those who don’t.”

:-)

First time I’ve seen that.


100 posted on 03/01/2014 8:40:57 PM PST by GJones2 (Binary joke)
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