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To: stanne
Well the good Ancient Order of Hibernians kept this from happening to the Fifth Avenue parade, in NY, so , where are the defenders in Boston, is what I wonder.

This is not Mississippi, and RCs and mainline Prots are overall in favor of gay marriage, and evangelicals are relatively very few.

If you like stats:

In 2003, all major religious groups opposed same-sex marriage, with the exception of the religiously unaffiliated. Today, there are major religious groups on both sides of the issue. Religiously unaffiliated Americans (73%), white mainline Protestants (62%), white Catholics (58%), and Hispanic Catholics (56%) all favor allowing gay and lesbian couples to marry. A majority (83%) of Jewish Americans also favor legalizing same-sex marriage. Hispanic Protestants are divided; 46% favor allowing gay and lesbian couples to legally marry and 49% oppose. By contrast, nearly 7-in-10 (69%) white evangelical Protestants and nearly 6-in-10 (59%) black Protestants oppose same-sex marriage. Only 27% of white evangelical Protestants and 35% of black Protestants support same-sex marriage.

White evangelical Protestants make up 19% of the adult population today, down from 24% in 2003, and white mainline Protestants, who represent 14% of the adult popula- tion today, made up 21% of Americans in 2003. While the proportion of Catholics in America has remained largely steady during the last decade, there has been a sea change in the ethnic makeup of the Catholic population. In 2003, Catholics were 68% white and 22 % Hispanic; among Catholics in 2013, the percentage of Hispanics has grown to 34%, while the percent- age of whites has declined to 60%.

Democrats are most likely to say American culture and way of life is better now than it was in the 1950s, with nearly 6-in-10 (59%) in agreement; independents (42%), Republicans (31%), and members of the Tea Party (22%) are significantly less likely to say the same. - http://publicreligion.org/site/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/2014.LGBT_REPORT.pdf

46 posted on 03/02/2014 10:39:59 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212

You lose the argument at ‘58% of Catholics...’

As much as those would agree with you, Catholicism is by its foundation simply not a democratic organization given to mob rule and cultural mood

It’s founding, instructional document, states a very brief, certain, biblical rule on homosexuality.

If the entire catholic population and hierarchy disagreed with it, it would not change.

Adam and Eve disagreed with God and allowed the serpent in, and allowed
themselves to be swayed against the simple rule given to them, to not know good and evil, to not be the arbiters of what is right, but to leave that to God. And God didnt change his rule to suit their mob rule. They brought death and shame, through pride

This is no different.

58% means nothing more than that they are misguided.

They are free to go to some other church that goes along with their thinking, but they’ll still have a problem, they’ll be judged as Catholics, who, BTW, have access to the catechism so much more easily than they have access to just about any other information

Google: what does the catechism state about homosexuality. Ot what does the Catholic Church state...

It’s three paragraphs written for lay people

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c2a6.htm

And then here’s something from Courage, the catholic spiritual support group

http://couragerc.net/Church_Teaching.html


48 posted on 03/02/2014 11:24:11 AM PST by stanne
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To: daniel1212

And it puts them at odds with St. Patrick. By their nature, saints followed the will of God, that includes following the order of the catechism, at least at and near the time of their death, at judgement time.

So this is scandalous


49 posted on 03/02/2014 11:29:18 AM PST by stanne
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