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To: daniel1212

You lose the argument at ‘58% of Catholics...’

As much as those would agree with you, Catholicism is by its foundation simply not a democratic organization given to mob rule and cultural mood

It’s founding, instructional document, states a very brief, certain, biblical rule on homosexuality.

If the entire catholic population and hierarchy disagreed with it, it would not change.

Adam and Eve disagreed with God and allowed the serpent in, and allowed
themselves to be swayed against the simple rule given to them, to not know good and evil, to not be the arbiters of what is right, but to leave that to God. And God didnt change his rule to suit their mob rule. They brought death and shame, through pride

This is no different.

58% means nothing more than that they are misguided.

They are free to go to some other church that goes along with their thinking, but they’ll still have a problem, they’ll be judged as Catholics, who, BTW, have access to the catechism so much more easily than they have access to just about any other information

Google: what does the catechism state about homosexuality. Ot what does the Catholic Church state...

It’s three paragraphs written for lay people

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c2a6.htm

And then here’s something from Courage, the catholic spiritual support group

http://couragerc.net/Church_Teaching.html


48 posted on 03/02/2014 11:24:11 AM PST by stanne
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To: stanne
You lose the argument at ‘58% of Catholics...’ As much as those would agree with you, Catholicism is by its foundation simply not a democratic organization given to mob rule and cultural mood It’s founding, instructional document, states a very brief, certain, biblical rule on homosexuality.

It is you who have no real argument, as regardless of what Rome officially states, Scripture teaches that it is what we do that manifests what we really believe - "I will shew thee my faith by my works." (Ja. 2:18)

And what Rome does is treat even prohomosexual public figures as members in life and in death, as Teddy K. And in so doing she interprets canon law and other statements about the status of such. And as i have also told others, unlike us you cannot separate yourself from those Rome counts and treats as members, unless you want to be in a sect or in schism. That is your church and they are your brethren and you must own them.

77 posted on 03/02/2014 7:02:11 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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