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Will Putin Seize Crimea?
The Moscow Times ^ | February 24, 2014 | Josh Cohen

Posted on 02/24/2014 10:20:59 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Viennacon

You answered my question. If the majority population of Crimea is Russian, and they think they should be part of Russia, it’s going to be difficult for Ukraine to hang on to it if they turn away from Russia.

Not impossible. But I doubt Ukraine is going to go to war with Russia to keep it.


41 posted on 02/25/2014 8:29:51 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: snoringbear; Grimmy
This will not be a civil war. There is no ethnic difference between Ukrainians and Moscowites. Both are eastern slavs and their languages are somewhat mutually understandable.

They separated due to quirks of history: Kievan Rus was destroyed by the Mongols and the Moscowites were under Mongol influence, the Belarusyni in the Grand Duchy of Lithuania (where they were the administrative and lower class) and the Ukraine was initially no mans land and then added to the GDL and finally under Polish influence

the war would be one between states -- the centralist Moscowite state or the divided Ukrainian

42 posted on 02/25/2014 8:43:16 AM PST by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That very Tsarich of Vlady do something like that


43 posted on 02/25/2014 9:05:25 AM PST by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hagle and Herr Obozo will downsize our army, weaken our Navy and may be do away with our Air Force.

Then, Herr Obozo and Kerry will defend the gays and Muslims in that area. After that, Herr Obozo and his pal Kerry will draw more red lines like they did in Syria and other places.

Putin will ignore the so called Red Lines. He will treat their naval base and port like we do Gitmo.

We will then probably see the Ukraine area divided into two camps, Muslim and other minorities in one area, and then the majority into a Russian state in the other area.


44 posted on 02/25/2014 10:13:05 AM PST by Grampa Dave ( Obozo Care is a Trinity of Lies! Obozo Care is probably a serious Black Swan event.)
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To: Grimmy
Russia population 140 million, US 340 million, China 2 billion. Russia has a huge border to protect.

Russia is a democracy since 1990. It is a "Christian" nation. Conservative in values, pro marriage, pro life, anti homo sexual propaganda.

We need Russia now more than we did during the 2nd WW.

It's arguable that Putins' Russia is on track in protecting and promoting western culture to be dominate world wide. While Obamas' America actions are resulting in just the opposite.

To Obama's credit, he stopped building missile sites in Poland, yielded to Putin in Syria, and is now, so far, not taking sides in the Ukraine.

45 posted on 02/25/2014 11:06:37 AM PST by duckln
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46 posted on 02/25/2014 11:20:19 AM PST by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: Jimmy Valentine

“The Tartars have been getting pretty noisy in Crimea too”

Well, those Tartars had better not get too saucy! ;)


47 posted on 02/25/2014 4:31:39 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Of course Putin will act to “protect” the naval base at Sevastopol/Crimea, under the pretext of preserving the treaty they have with the Ukraine.

Or, he may just march in like Hitler at Danzig and take it.

Who’se going to oppose him? Obama? Hagel? Kerry? -The “Three Apostles of Appeasement”?

Oh, maybe Obama will send in Hillary on her broom to wag her boney finger at Putin and say “Tisk, tisk”.

I won’t even speculate what kind of finger Putin will give back to Hillary but she won’t get a thrill out of it.


48 posted on 02/25/2014 6:23:59 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Yes, for the same reason that the USA would not want to let a strategic base split away.
49 posted on 02/26/2014 5:30:15 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

We’ll send in Pussy Riot.


50 posted on 02/26/2014 5:42:07 AM PST by InvisibleChurch (http://thegatwickview.tumblr.com/ http://thepurginglutheran.tumblr.com/)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Hillary Clinton can’t do anthing.

Her Secret Service code name: “Pussy Rot”.


51 posted on 02/26/2014 6:52:07 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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