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Defense Sec Proposed Cutting Army
Fox News.com ^ | Feb 24, 2014 | Staff Reports

Posted on 02/24/2014 5:11:07 AM PST by RetiredArmy

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To: MikefromOhio

Since you brought up 9/11, please tell us anything our military could have done to prevent it? I mean, we had a massive budget at the time, yet it still happened.

Let’s get real here and not be so stupid: 9/11 was perpetrated by people WE LET IN TO THE COUNTRY AND REFUSED TO DEPORT WHEN THEIR VISA EXPIRED. It had NOTHING to do with military budgeting.


121 posted on 02/25/2014 1:01:41 PM PST by CodeToad (Keeping whites from talking about blacks is verbal segregation!)
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To: patriotsoul

“our military has performed worldwide in humanitarian efforts. “

So, you support our military being used as Meals-On-Wheels. Great, another liberal wanting to tax the rest of us to provide representation to everyone else.

NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION, or did that little ditty not make your civics class if you even took it?


122 posted on 02/25/2014 1:03:49 PM PST by CodeToad (Keeping whites from talking about blacks is verbal segregation!)
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To: patriotsoul

P.S. You are no friend of the military since you believe their ROE is about providing humanitarian efforts and not defeating enemies at war. It is why they are getting killed and you support that bullshit.


123 posted on 02/25/2014 1:05:55 PM PST by CodeToad (Keeping whites from talking about blacks is verbal segregation!)
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To: CodeToad
I would direct you to this post of yours. LINK

One of Reagan's big motos was, "Peace through strength."

This would mean that saw him as a Fascist.

Not buying into that crap sandwich here bud.

124 posted on 02/25/2014 2:15:35 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: Progov

I heartily agree.


125 posted on 02/25/2014 2:16:07 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: CodeToad

Okay, I’m paranoid and you’re comatose. Agreed.


126 posted on 02/25/2014 2:16:44 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: CodeToad
Liberals don’t want their pet spending cut and neither do you, so how are you two any different when it comes to spending?

Are you one of those fiscal conservative moral liberals RE: Libertarians?

Defense is clearly a role of the Federal Government; Leftists pet spending projects are NOT. There is NO compromise nor moral relative equivalency as you allude to.

How much cost, what price is to be placed upon Liberty? I argue that there is no price too high; Many have paid the price with blood.

There is a BIG difference between defense spending and Leftist pet projects. I spent 6 years in the submarine service during the Cold War, 2-1/2 years spent under water and it wasn't for the damn paycheck.

IMHO you seem to be missing something in your perspective.

From what I have seen from this administration; at best, the proposed cuts have EVERYTHING to do with spending regardless the readiness of our military; at worst, the cuts are an intentional attempt to castrate our military. A military with a proud tradition and legacy, a military with experience that is not just created from thin air or found in a textbook on some college campus but rather passed on within the ranks. The ranks that idiots without clue one want to decimate as they promise we can always easily restore by restoring the cash flow to what took blood sweat, tears, lives, & many years to create.

127 posted on 02/25/2014 2:20:51 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: plain talk
It's is simply amazing that some of these folks haven't a single clue why there was essentially global peace for the last 60 years.

Sure we had skirmishes here and there, but the global wars, the super-costly wars that cost millions of lives didn't happen.

The closest thing to it, was the Iraq/Iran war where I believe each side lost about 500,000.

Why? Because the U. S. made it know, it was going to kick the ass of any rogue state that crossed us.

You probably saw one sage state that we could go back to pre WWII status, and wait until something came along to scale up again.

Any ideas why we had to scale up then? It was because the enemy saw Europe and us weak enough to exploit.

We were damn lucky in that war. It was no walk-over.

128 posted on 02/25/2014 2:21:21 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Me too!


129 posted on 02/25/2014 2:22:08 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: CodeToad

CodeToad, whatever doubt there was about you, has now been destroyed thanks to you.

I wasn’t able to come here and discuss this with you yesterday. You evidently decided that made you right.

No, it made you an idiot without an opponent.


130 posted on 02/25/2014 2:22:41 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: cincinnati65

Exactly, and when they do, they set global policy.

This isn’t rocket science.


131 posted on 02/25/2014 2:23:38 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: arderkrag

LMAO...

So your idea of a plan, is to let the enemy sink our Pacific fleet again.

Okay then...


132 posted on 02/25/2014 2:27:03 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: ohioman
I swear some people in this country are too stupid to live.

Honestly, I don't know where they pick this up.

I think the Libertarian wing today is as lost as the McGovernites of the 70s. They simply don't have enough brain cells to come in out of the pending nuclear winter.

133 posted on 02/25/2014 2:29:22 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: Hulka

I agree with your post, and it’s only one of probably 20 to 100 other possible good rejections of what is going on.


134 posted on 02/25/2014 2:30:57 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: DBeers

Thanks. And fat chance of it from Obama’s crew.

So what does out team do? Well some of them actually cheer the man on.


135 posted on 02/25/2014 2:36:51 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Immigration Reform is job NONE. It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics. Enforce our laws.)
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To: CodeToad

You were the one that said no one was going to attack us. I provided two rather obvious counters to your inane and naive statement.


136 posted on 02/25/2014 4:00:29 PM PST by MikefromOhio
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To: CodeToad

Get a grip Dude. You support the claim that all our military does is active warfare (hence every post on this thread) and I merely pointed out that our military is used in humanitarian efforts i.e., tsunami, earthquakes, Navy ships as hospitals, etc. You are the only one whose reasoning can’t comprehend that the above does not equate to ‘meals on wheels.’ You must think it fine that we draw down troops levels since we are not in an active war. There will be grave consequences to that and it appears that you aren’t able to make that connection.


137 posted on 02/25/2014 4:08:59 PM PST by patriotsoul
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To: plain talk

“Interesting that we have to debate the merits of a strong military at a site like Free Republic.”

Sadly, FR is rife with crazy isolationist libertarians that don’t see the need for a large standing army. Also, there are extreme tea party (AKA “fiscal conservatives) persons here that don’t want to pay taxes to keep the military strong. They would rather DoD be downsized that to repeal the sequester that is killing national defense.


138 posted on 02/25/2014 4:09:37 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: CodeToad
[Me, laying it out] ” the United States will endeavor to fight its wars offshore or overseas, so that no major campaign ever again will be fought on U.S. soil.”

[You, being a knucklehead] You’re the one that doesn’t get it. No base or outpost can survive the onslaught of such forces as we faced with the Soviet Union. None. They were sacrificial. So, your viewpoint on this is moot.

That must be what the NVA thought in 1972, right before we turned their tank columns into putrescent junk and left overturned T-54's lying on top of one another where they fell ..... Yeah, better check with General Giap's colleagues about that one, Sparky.

What twaddle. "Moot"? I'll show you "moot":

Second, what happens when all your troops are overseas and then slaughtered leaving none at home?

When the Armed Forces of the United States get "slaughtered", I assure you there will be no form of life left on the other side more complicated than tree moss.

"Slaughtered" -- what piffle! What, are you just expressing your fondest hope, that you will live to see your splenetic isolationism validated on the bones of American servicemen, so you could put down your bowl of mush long enough to mumble through your drool, "See? See?! Told you so!!"

139 posted on 02/25/2014 4:34:13 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: RetiredArmy

Because we can’t cut the leeches off welfare.

Why does it look like the 30s all over again?


140 posted on 02/25/2014 4:55:27 PM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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