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Is polygamy the cause of Muslim violence?
Human Events ^ | February 18, 2014 | William Tucker

Posted on 02/23/2014 1:15:33 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Popman; Tennessee Nana; Colofornian

Uhmmm, I think they did, actually.


21 posted on 02/23/2014 1:45:36 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

judaism permitted polygamy. the article does not mention that. polygamy was widespread in china, japan, among the native peoples in the western hemisphere, classical greece, polynesia, australian aboriginal peoples, and africa well into historical times. in contrast, monogamy in the western world did not come into practice until classical roman times. a literal interpretation of the bible (old and new testaments) reveals to an honest and impartial reader that nothing in the bible forbids polygamy. the contemporary christian view that jesus forbids polygamy did not gain acceptance until christian teachings were modified and adapted to become more attractive to middle class romans.

the article is interesting, but woefully incomplete in its presentation of data and analysis, and i do not sense any correlation, nor any honest attempt to present a case for any such correlation. this is not to say the writer is being deceptive so much as to say that the writer never rises significantly beyond his peers to a level needed to convince me of the premise. ymmv.


22 posted on 02/23/2014 1:46:14 PM PST by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: jocon307

I came up with the same conclusion years ago.


23 posted on 02/23/2014 1:49:53 PM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How are the women in those countries “excess”? It’s just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. Seems like a recipe for serious regional instability.


24 posted on 02/23/2014 1:50:05 PM PST by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with violence, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Polygamy is one reason Muslims are violent. Young male children getting their butts buggered by horny Muslim adults is another. Being completely controlled by a militant religion that rewards violence is yet another. There is really no reason for Muslims not to be violent. It is the Islamic nature.


25 posted on 02/23/2014 1:53:20 PM PST by pallis
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To: jocon307

It’s pretty common in Saudi. But interestingly one of the major problems is daughters who don’t marry. They are stuck in their dad’s household and with nothing to do. So they get depressed and neurotic.


26 posted on 02/23/2014 2:08:06 PM PST by Kozak ("Send them back your fierce defiance! Stamp upon the cursed alliance! To arms, to arms in Dixie!)
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To: Valpal1

Indonesia Sex ratio
http://www.indexmundi.com/indonesia/sex_ratio.html

Cambodia - Population - Sex ratio of the total population
http://knoema.com/atlas/Cambodia/topics/Demographics/Population/Sex-ratio

Philippines Sex ratio
http://www.indexmundi.com/philippines/sex_ratio.html


27 posted on 02/23/2014 2:10:28 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hey, if you have to put up with more than one woman, or if you can’t get one at all because wealthier guys have all got four apiece tied up, I guess you might tend to get a little bit violent.

‘Splains the whole Islam thing!


28 posted on 02/23/2014 2:18:57 PM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Does polygamy also explain the Mountain Meadows masacre?


29 posted on 02/23/2014 2:22:16 PM PST by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind, but now I see...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; NYer

We have ‘serial polygamy’ in Hollywood.


30 posted on 02/23/2014 2:23:15 PM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Mormons were often on the receiving end of violent persecution before 1845, culminating in the battle of Nauvoo (Ill.) in 1844, eventually forcing the Mormons to flee to Utah. I am not promoting Mormonism but I do think people have a right to live as they please, especially after being forced to leave their homes at gunpoint. Finally, anti-polygamist sentiment was taken advantage of to gain followers for political gain during the formation of the Republican Party. Before placing exclusive blame on Mormons in Utah for violence, one question that seems relevant is to ask what is the proximate cause of the Mormons to be living in Utah in the first place.

I am all for people who get sexually and emotionally uptight about what other consenting adults do behind closed doors to voice their (sexually and emotionally uptight) opinions. The point at which the sexually and emotionally uptight people start to advocate or condone violence against some folks merely because those folks do not share their sexually and emotionally uptight views on what consenting adults choose to do in private is the height of irrationality and the point where i depart from them. For sexually and emotionally uptight people with violent intentions everywhere, the cliched adage “make love, not war” is IMHO still appropriate. And yet another adage is that those who cannot remember the past are doomed to repeat it.


31 posted on 02/23/2014 2:24:24 PM PST by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Did you ever read “A Study in Scarlet”, the first Sherlock Holmes story? He’s not actually in it very much, it’s a long recounting of some man’s misadventures among the early Mormons. I don’t remember it very well, but I do remember thinking: woah, this isn’t the Donnie & Marie Mormons we’ve come to know and love.

Of course it is a made up story, but clearly things have changed with that group.

It might be interesting to study how much getting rid of polygamy had to do with that, if anything.


32 posted on 02/23/2014 2:25:15 PM PST by jocon307
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To: b4its2late

And she’s another who got fired by NRO for that exact piece.


33 posted on 02/23/2014 2:25:59 PM PST by jocon307
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The mainland Chinese are some of the most race-conscious people on the planet, which is why that isn’t happening anytime soon. Maybe as prostitutes, but not wives.


34 posted on 02/23/2014 2:26:37 PM PST by coydog (Time to feed the pigs!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

HA HA, those are pretty funny.


35 posted on 02/23/2014 2:27:01 PM PST by jocon307
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Inbreeding is more likely.


36 posted on 02/23/2014 2:27:56 PM PST by Iron Munro (Eight died on that bridge at Concord, back in 1775. How many will it take this time?)
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37 posted on 02/23/2014 2:30:18 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: DJ Taylor

Goggle “Muslim inbreeding”. In Pakistan the population is 70% the product of cousin-marriage. Inbreeding over fourteen centuries has produced hideous results.

Combine inbreeding with polygamy and the aforementioned “bachelor herd” becomes an inexhaustible source of jihad fodder.


38 posted on 02/23/2014 2:32:25 PM PST by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Polygamy is one of many ways that Islam sets people against each other. While women have no legal power, they can wield hell on earth to their husbands, daughters or daughters in law. Disenfranchised women fight each other brutally within families. Islam also endorses hatred between ethnic groups. Blacks are slaves; Arabs are superior to everybody else; Muslims superior to non-Muslims. In a multitude of ways, Islamic culture gives outrageous privileges to upper classes, but no one rich or poor is secure from emotion laden charges of “not being a good Muslim.” Because there is no recognition of inalienable rights, violence is often unleashed suddenly without the restraint of any legal process.
39 posted on 02/23/2014 2:32:36 PM PST by Missouri gal
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To: SteveH

Good post, you answered a lot of questions that I had but I didn’t want to beleaguer others by asking.

Quite frankly, if it weren’t for the “angry man” problem I think polygamy probably works well. Men like sex more than women, women like to hang out together more than men, more hands to raise the kids, etc.

Think of the end of Dr. Strangelove, where the one old duffer proposes taking prominent men (himself and his friends) to live in the post-nuke bunkers with many beautiful women in order to maintain the human race. Of course these old farts will have to hook up with many women each, that’s the sacrifice they’ll have to make for mankind.


40 posted on 02/23/2014 2:32:37 PM PST by jocon307
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