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Is polygamy the cause of Muslim violence?
Human Events ^ | February 18, 2014 | William Tucker

Posted on 02/23/2014 1:15:33 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Tennessee Nana

The Mormons sing instead “god in his glory blessed deity’


Is NOTHING sacred to these damned PARASITES?





"Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned;

and I will go still further and say, take this revelation, or any other revelation that the Lord has given,

and deny it in your feelings, and I promise that you will be damned.

Brigham Young - JoD 3:266 (July 14, 1855)

161 posted on 02/24/2014 6:38:48 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tennessee Nana
The Mormons sing instead “god in his glory blessed deity’


Shouldn't that be...

“gods in his THEIR glory blessed deityIES

162 posted on 02/24/2014 6:40:11 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Oh i think I was referring to other times Jesus spoke of God the Father..


163 posted on 02/24/2014 6:49:44 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Elsie

Shouldn’t that be...

“gods in his THEIR glory blessed deityIES’
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probably is I just cant make out the dropped Ses when I hear them sing that line..


164 posted on 02/24/2014 6:51:41 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Elsie

The ‘word’ polygamy is not in the bible either; but MORMONs will SURE point to the PRACTICE of it as something GOD intended.
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Yes but if ya cant find it then ya aint reading approved text Elsie...


165 posted on 02/24/2014 6:54:29 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Elsie

Yeah Joey Smith’s seer stone that he put in his hat is not in the Bible either and the modern mormons choose to deny it existed but it was sure spoken of a lot back when..

Joseph Smith’s Seer Stone

Image and Description of the seer stone purchased in Susquehannah County

(Note: This green seer stone was apparently sold to Joseph Smith by Jack Belcher in the 1820’s. After his assassination in 1844 this stone was acquired by Philo Dibble, who later exhibited the stone, death masks and other historical objects on lecture tours which he conducted in Utah Territory. It passed through various heirs and in 1993 was sold for $75,000.)

Seer Stone in the Wilford Woodruff Museum

(Note: After Joseph Smith’s death, Emma gave this stone to relatives of her second husband, Lewis Bidamon. It currently resides in the Wilford Woodruff Museum.)

Report on an 1830 Interview with Joseph Smith, Sr.
Fayette Lapham
May, 1870
His son Joseph, whom he called the illiterate, when about fourteen years of age, happened to be where a man was looking into a dark stone and telling people, therefrom, where to dig for money and other things. Joseph requested the privilege of looking into the stone, which he did by putting his face into the hat where the stone was. It proved to be not the right stone for him; but he could see some things, and, among them, he saw the stone, and where it was, in which he could see whatever he wished to see. Smith claims and believes that there is a stone of this quality, somewhere, for every one. The place where he saw the stone was not far from their house; and, under pretence of digging a well, they found water and the stone at a depth of twenty or twenty-two feet. (Interview with the Father of Joseph Smith, the Mormon Prophet, Forty Years Ago. His Account of the Finding of the Sacred Plates, Historical Magazine [second series] 7 (May 1870): 305–09)

Priddy Meeks discussion with Hyrum Smith, according to his autobiography
Priddy Meeks
1879
I have seen peepstones as well polished as a fiddle with a nice hole through one end that belonged to the ancients. I asked Brother Smith the use for that hole; he said the same as a watch chain to keep from losing it. He said in time of war the Nephites had the advantage of their enemies by looking in the seerstone which would reveal whatever they wished to know. (I believe a peepstone is of the same piece with the Urim and Thummim, if we understood it.) (Autobiography and Journal of Priddy Meeks)

Dedication of the Manti temple
Wilford Woodruff
18 May, 1888
Before leaving I consecrated upon the altar the seer stone that Joseph Smith found by revelation some 30 feet under the Earth carried by him through life. (Wilford Woodruff’s Journal)

Joseph Fielding Smith
Joseph Fielding Smith
1 Mar, 1959
We have been taught since the days of the Prophet that the Urim and Thummim were returned with the plates to the angel. We have not record of the Prophet having the Urim and Thummim after the organization of the Church. Statements of translations by the Urim and Thummim after that date are evidently errors. The statement has been made that the Urim and Thummim was on the altar in the Manti Temple when that building was dedicated. The Urim and Thummim so spoken of, however, was the seer stone which was in the possession of the Prophet Joseph Smith in early days. This seer stone is now in the possession of the church. (Doctrines of Salvation,Vol. 3, p. 225)

Emma’s Description in a letter to Mrs. Charles Pilgrim
Emma Smith Bidamon
27 Mar, 1876
Now the first that my husband translated was translated by the use of the Urim and Thummim, and that was the part that Martin Harris lost, after that he used a small stone, not exactly black, but was rather a dark color. (Letter from Emma Bidamon to Emma S. Pilgrim, March 27, 1870)

David Whitmer description
David Whitmer
17 Oct, 1886
By fervent prayer and by otherwise humbling himself, the prophet however, again found favor, and was presented with a strange, oval-shaped, chocolate-colored stone, about the size of an egg, only more flat, which, it was promised would serve the same purpose as the missing Urim and Thummim… With this stone all of the present Book of Mormon was translated (The Salt Lake Daily Tribune, October 17, 1886, Vol 31, No. 3)

Brigham Young’s Journal
Brigham Young
27 Dec, 1841
I met with the Twelve at Brother Joseph’s. He conversed with us in a familiar manner on a variety of subjects, and explained to us the Urim and Thummim which he found with the plates, called in the Book of Mormon the Interpreters. He said that every man who lived on the earth was entitled to a seerstone, and should have one, but they are kept from them in consequence of their wickedness, and most of those who do find one make an evil use of it; he showed us his seerstone. (Brigham Young’s own story in his own words, compiled by Lee Nelson, pg 47)

Brigham Young with seer stone in 1856
Hosea Stout
25 Feb, 1856
President Young exhibited the Seer’s stone with which the Prophet Joseph discovered the Plates of the Book of Mormon, to the regents this evening. It is said to be a silecious granite dark color almost black with light colored stripes some what resembling petrified poplar or cotton wood bark It was about the size but not the shape of a hen’s egg (Hosea Stout diary in Juanita Brooks, On the Mormon Frontier: The Diaries of Hosea Stout, 1844-1861, v. 2, p. 593)

Samuel Bateman diary
Samuel Bateman
17 Aug, 1887
On Sunday last I saw and handled the seer stone that the Prophet Joseph Smith had. It was a dark color, not round on one side. It was shaped like the top of a baby’s shoe, one end like the toe of the shoe, and the other round (Samuel Bateman diary, Lee Library)

Brigham Young 1855 Council Meeting
Brigham Young
30 Sep, 1855
Oliver sent me Joseph’s first seer stone; Oliver always kept it until he sent it to me - the second seer stone Dr. Williams had - the third one was a very large - and Joseph found two small ones on the beach in Nauvoo - a little larger than a black walnut without the shock on - Joseph said there is a stone for every person on the earth - I don’t know that I have ever had a desire to have one. (Salt Lake City, Council Meeting, LJA 9-13-4, 149-150; BYC, The Complete Discourses of Brigham Young, 2010, Vol. 2, Pg. 1004)

Mary Woodward Interview
Mary Brown Firmage Woodward
11 Aug, 1986
The stone was not chocolate brown but rather the color of brown sugar. It was 3-4 inches long, 2 inches wide, and had a hump in the middle which made it perhaps 2 inches think at the thickest point. It was flat on the bottom and had three black, concentric circles on the top ½ inch. Below the circles were many small black circles. The stone was not transparent. (Mary Brown Firmage interview with Richard S. Van Wagoner, 11 Aug 1986. Van Wagoner papers, Marriott Library)

Wilford Woodruff’s Journal
Wilford Woodruff
11 Sep, 1859
Presidet Young also said that the seer stone which Joseph Smith first obtained He got in an Iron kettle 25 feet under ground. He saw it while looking in another seers stone which a person had. He went right to the spot & dug & found it.

Gazalem
James E. Talmage
22 Feb, 1893
President Woodruff in relation to the seer stone known as ‘Gazalem,’ which was shown of the Lord to the Prophet Joseph to be some thirty feet under ground, and which he obtained by digging under the pretense of excavating for a well, as related in his own history. This remarkable stone was used by the Prophet. (Prophet Wilford Woodruff statement during meeting with James E. Talmage, February 22, 1893, LDS archives, as quoted in Early Mormonism and the Magic World View, by D. Michael Quinn, p. 174)


166 posted on 02/24/2014 7:17:39 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

I see my comment has gotten us thinking...


167 posted on 02/25/2014 4:13:56 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tennessee Nana

SOME of us anyway!


168 posted on 02/25/2014 4:14:13 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu

You are still living in the 1800’s more has come to all our understanding since those days...



 ...in a long sermon preached in the Tabernacle on April 9, 1852, he made this announcement:
 
"Now hear it, O inhabitants of the earth, Jew and Gentile, saint and sinner. When our father Adam came into the Garden of Eden, 
he came into it with a CELESTIAL BODY, and brought Eve, ONE OF HIS WIVES, with him. He helped to make and organize this world.
He is MICHAEL, the ARCHANGEL, the ANCIENT OF DAYS, about whom holy men have written and spoken.*
HE is our FATHER and our GOD, AND THE ONLY GOD WITH WHOM 'WE' HAVE TO DO... Every man upon the earth, professing Christians
or non-professing, must hear it and WILL KNOW IT SOONER OR LATER.... I could tell you much more about this;
but were I to tell you the whole truth, blasphemy would be nothing to it, in the estimation of the superstitious
and over righteous of mankind.... Jesus, our Elder Brother, was begotten in the flesh by the same character
that was in the Garden of Eden, and who is our Father in heaven."**
 
  
 * Young, in a public discourse on October 23, 1853, declared that
he rejected the story of Adam's creation as "baby stories my mother
taught me when I was a child." But the Mormon Bible (2 Nephi ii. 18-22) 
tells the story of Adam's fall.
   ** Journal of Discourses, VOL I, pp. 50, 51.
 
 


 
Title: The Story of the Mormons
       From the Date of their Origin to the Year 1901

Author: William Alexander Linn
 
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/2443/2443-h/2443-h.htm     

169 posted on 02/25/2014 4:29:50 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu

170 posted on 02/25/2014 8:06:46 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu

bttt


171 posted on 02/25/2014 2:51:45 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu

bttt


172 posted on 02/27/2014 4:56:46 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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