Posted on 02/23/2014 1:15:33 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Syria is submerged in civil war. The Sunni and the Shi’ia of Iraq are renewing their 1300-year-old conflict. Libyan rebels have shut down the nation’s oil industry. Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood has been suppressed and is resorting to terrorism. Pakistan is a cauldron of violence and assassinations. In short, the Muslim world, as usual, is at war with itself.
This is not a contemporary phenomenon. Islam has been attacking its neighbors ever since the Prophet Mohammed received the Koran from the Angel Gabriel in the 7th century. Within 50 years of his death, Muslim armies had conquered the known world from Spain to Afghanistan. The Moguls invaded India, setting off a conflict that persists today. The Ottoman Empire besieged Europe for hundreds of years before its collapse in the 20th century. As historian Samuel Huntington has written, Islam has always had “bloody borders.”
Is there any explanation for this? Is it temperament or history? Is it the inevitable fight over scarce resources? Or, as Muslim cultures would insist, is it because Islam has always been surrounded by hostile neighbors?
In my book, Marriage and Civilization, I offer a novel explanation as to why Islam has always been at war with itself and others. It is because Islam it is the only major religious culture that embraces polygamy.
Polygamy? What does that have to do with anything? Am I suggesting that because some minor sheik outside Baghdad takes two wives, two young Muslim brothers in Massachusetts feel compelled to blow up the Boston Marathon?
Well, yes. In any human society there are approximately the same number of men and women. Under monogamy, which limits each man to one wife, everyone gets a fair chance to marry. When powerful and successful men are allowed to take more than one wife, however, as they are in a polygamous society, this creates a pool of unsuccessful men at the bottom of society who are constantly in conflict with the system.
The history of Islam has been one continuous story of rebel groups off in the desert and deciding that the religion being practiced by the authorities and their harems back in the cities is not the “true Islam.” They come crashing back upon the palaces, overthrowing the leaders (no Ottoman Sultan ever died of natural causes) and establishing a new regime that is just like the old one, where powerful are allowed to take multiple wives.
The Prophet Muhammad had a novel solution to this problem. Go and conquer neighboring societies and requisition their women. If you die in the process, the reward will be even greater – 72 virgins waiting for you in heaven! “Jihad” has been a clever and effective way of redirecting the hostilities of the “bachelor herd” that polygamy inevitably produces.
The fruits of polygamy are visible all over the Middle East. Because women are always in short supply, families can charge a “bride price” to any man who wants to marry their daughter. Because daughters are now worth money, they must be veiled and sequestered so they don’t run off with some callow youth. Older men desperate for wives push down into younger and younger cohorts of the population. Marriages between 35-year-old men and 13-year-old girls become common. (Muhammad’s last wife was age six.)
But the main product of polygamy is a population of angry young men who are ripe recruits for terrorism. The Koran supposedly limits a man to four wives but in countries where there are vast disparities of wealth this is routinely violated. Osama bin Laden’s father, a successful Saudi businessman, had 22 wives and 54 children. The unbalance between unmarried men and the available women in Saudi Arabia is the highest in the world. Is it any wonder that 15 of the 19 September 11th hijackers were Saudi nationals?
Ann Coulter once suggested that we would cure Muslim violence by converting the Islamic world to Christianity. This is not as far-fetched as it sounds. Christianity’s long enforcement of monogamous marriage has obviously played a critical role in establishing the more peaceful civilization of the West. The same can be said for China and India, where the vast majority adhere to monogamy. None of these cultures is plagued with the endless internal violence and outward aggression of Islam.
Converting the Muslim world to Christianity may be out of the question, but persuading it to give up polygamy on the grounds that it creates an inherently unstable society is a task that the rest of the world might be willing to undertake.
Mary Elizabeth Rollins Lightner (1818-1913)
http://seek.deseretbook.com/richard-e-turley-jr-mary-elizabeth-rollins-lightner-1818-1913/i
you Mormons may think you have something you like to call “heavenly father” but Christians have God the Father who is Spirit and has never had a body nor shall ever have one..
The Word of God who is the Second Person of the Trinity, left His Heaven and was conceived in Mary by the Holy Ghost, who is the Third Person of the Trinity..no sex act involved..no need for one..
When the Word was conceived He took on the flesh of a human baby and had a body for the first time..He was named Jesus..
Meanwhile God the Father and God the Holy Ghost remain forever Spirit and without bodies..
Only the LORD Jesus Christ had a body..
Mary Elizabeth Rollins
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Yes you boy Joey Smith tried to rape her when she was a child of 12 years old..
she was able to resist him..
Joey Smith was a pedophile ...
Hmmmmmmmmmmm
John 14:26 is a Trinity verse..
if you were an honorable person but than an honorable person would not even go there look for trutn...
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Not go to the LDS publications ???
Only dishonorable people read LDS works ???
“But since God ‘acquired’ the honor and sustaining influence of ‘all things’ it follows as a corollary that if He should ever do anything to violate the confidence or sense of justice’ of these intelligences, they would promptly withdraw their support, and the ‘power’ of God would disintegrate.... ‘He would cease to be God.’ Our Heavenly Father can do only those things which the intelligences under Him are voluntarily willing to support Him in accomplishing”
(W. Cleon Skousen, First 2000 Years, pp. 355-356).
W. Cleon Skousen, is a former BYU professor, a Mormon in good standing until he died in 2006..
I was talking about getting stuff from the distortion and disinformation Curtain...
Id stay away from the Morridor then if I was you...
You would believe anything negative about the LDS your stories as related is a fabrication of hearsay and half truths where ever you pick it up from, I suggest in the future you get your gossips from a more realizable source that is more accurate...
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Milton R. Hunter, who was assigned to write the G.T.A. on behalf of the LDS General Authorities, also said, “Mormon prophets have continuously taught the sublime truth that God the Eternal Father was once a mortal man who passed through a school of earth life similar to that through which we are now passing... He became God — an exalted being — through obedience to the same eternal Gospel truths that we are given opportunity today to obey” (G.T.A., p. 104).(Gospel Through the Ages, 1968)
And LDS Apostle Orson Pratt said, “The Gods who dwell in the Heaven from which our spirits came, are beings who have been redeemed from the grave in a world which existed before the foundations of this earth were laid. They and the heavenly body which they now inhabit were once in a fallen state. They were exalted also, from fallen men to Celestial Gods to inhabit their Heaven forever and ever” (The Seer, p. 23).
Pratt also said, “We were begotten by our Father in Heaven; the person of our Father in Heaven was begotten on a previous heavenly world by His Father; and again He was begotten by a still more ancient Father, and so on, from generation to generation, from one heavenly world to another still more ancient, until our minds are wearied and lost in the multiplicity of generations and successive worlds” (Ibid., p. 132).
Joseph Smith said, “Our text says, ‘God hath made us kings and priests unto God and His Father ‘ (Rev. 1:6). ...If Jesus Christ was the Son of God, and John discovered that God the Father of Jesus Christ had a Father, you may suppose that He had a Father also” (T. of P. J. S., pp. 370, 373; M.D., p. 577). (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith by Joseph Fielding Smith 1963, Mormon Doctrine by Bruce R McConkie 1966)
Well granted the Mormons don’t believe their god stops at only three persons..
they do add at least one female god also with a body like their daddy god...
LDS Apostle James Talmage wrote, “We are expressly told that God is the Father of spirits, and to apprehend the literalness of this solemn truth we must know that a Mother of spirits is an existent personality” (A. of F., p. 443). (Articles of Faith by James Talmasge 1976
LDS Apostle Bruce McConkie wrote, “This doctrine that there is a Mother in Heaven was affirmed in plainness by the First Presidency of the Church (Joseph F. Smith, John R. Winder, and Anthon H. Lund) when in speaking of pre-existence and the origin of man, they said that ‘man as a spirit was begotten and born of heavenly parents and reared to maturity in the eternal mansions of the Father’” (M.D., p. 516). (Mormon Doctrine)
“We, the human family, literally the sons and daughters of Divine Parents, the literal progeny of God our Eternal Father, and of our God Mother, are away from home for a season” (Bruce R McConkie, The Philosophical Basis of Mormonism, p. 9).
Milton Hunter also said, “The stupendous truth of the existence of a Heavenly Mother, as well as a Heavenly Father, became established facts in Mormon Theology” (G.T.A., p. 98). (Gospel Through the Ages)
Milton hunter also quotes the familiar Mormon hymn, “O My Father.” The third verse declares, “In the heav’ns are parents single? No; the tho’t makes reason stare! Truth is reason, Truth eternal, Tells me I’ve a Mother there” (G.T.A., pp. 99-100).
hmmmmm it seems the Mormon holy ghost does have what you seem to call “substance” after all...
it will have a body..
it wasn’t Dennis or Calvin naughtiness that has stopped it from evolving ...
probably its just waiting for the 15 to get their act together and vote it a body...
on April 6, 1843, Joseph Smith said, “The Holy Ghost is yet a spiritual body and waiting to take to himself a body as the Saviour did or as the gods before them took bodies” (Discourses on the Holy Ghost, compiled by N.B. Lundwall, p. 73).
Unless someone is fortunate enough to have access to one of the multi-volume printed sets (which have been out of print since 1991), it will do them no good.
www.lds.org removed the Documentary History of the Church from its website during the Romney campaign. The lengthy wikipedia entry on the Documentary History of the Church has been removed.
The affidavits of T.B. Marsh and Orson Hyde have been removed from p. 167 of the digital copy of the Documentary History of the Church maintained at the archives of BYU.
This has nothing to do with the doctrine of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. It concerns scrubbing historical material from the web.
That’s OK
more than 50% of what is suppose to be the personal diaries if Joey Smith weren’t written until after he got himself killed in that jail break..
I wouldn’t call it a jail break.
9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
11 Give us this day our daily bread.
12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
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you Mormons may think you have something you like to call “heavenly father” but Christians have God the Father who is Spirit and has never had a body nor shall ever have one..
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I know what you have, how convenient to have a spirit who claims to be of 3 in one substance.
How glorified is that?
Why would the most High remain a spirit in some minds?
Lucifer/Satan will always be a spirit because of the fall from grace, never to received or to be glorified with an eternal body
When Heavenly Father Glorified His resurrected Son, Jesus Christ, Jesus receive an Eternal body of Flesh and Bone, like his Eternal Father has....
John 5
(one either can receive or not receive, one can be shown or one cannot (see)
19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
20 For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel.
21 For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will.
22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:
23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.
24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.
26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;
BTW The Lord’s Prayer is to Heavenly Father, Matthew 6
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Where does it say “Heavenly Father” in Matthew 6 ???
where is the prayer identified as “the Lord’s Prayer” ???
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DUH
Maybe because God said that He was and is Spirit ??? (John 4:24)
I am the Lord I never change Malachi 3:6
why do you use Christian sources ???
Why don’t you use Mormon sources ???
You complain that I don’t use Mormon sources and then you go off road yourself ???
I know what you have, how convenient to have a spirit who claims to be of 3 in one substance.
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Eh ???
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