No difference between the two.
What strategy is it to vote for candidates that are no different from the Rats?
1. Conservative Republican candidate who is capable of winning.
2. Not conservative Republican candidate (GOP-E) who is capable of winning
3. Conservative Republican candidate who is a longshot at best of winning against a democrat
4. Non conservative Republican candidate (GOP-E) who is a longshot at best of winning.
5. Third Party Protest Vote
6. Complete RINO
7. Anyone Else
8. Democrat
9. Joe Schwarz, my ex congressman. Special kind of RINO.
Voting party over principle is the reason the GOP is FUBAR.
Andrew, you bought into the false premise. Todd Akin is NOT tea party.
RINO vs Democrat
Presumption that they are two different parties - I used to think so. I no longer do. We have one Central Party with two wings. Each wing uses wedge issues to electrify the segments that make up the wing, but only during elections. Once in office, it is back to crony capitalism and milking the system while the country goes deeper in debt and deeper into socialism.
If you do not believe me yet, please think...
1. Each wing has had complete control of elected national gov’t and neither has led us out of debt or towards more freedom, etc... despite campaign promises. I can only conclude we have exactly the kind of gov’t and limited freedom they want us to have. We have more government, less freedom, less money, fewer rights.
2. The next election cycle, they promise the same things to each “interest group” - and that is how RINOs who run the R party see conservatives, as a small special interest group they have to promise something to.
3. Each uses fear of the other to get you to vote for the “lesser evil”.
I realized this (and more) during the Dole era - final straw for me. I changed to independent. Conservative, but off the plantation. I did not vote for RINOmney. Wouldn’t have mattered in my state anyway, because Zero won by 10 million votes.
Those who are “true believers” refuse to believe or understand what I just wrote. There call.
In the next primary, they will hold forth on why there are “real conservatives” who can win, while RINOs work behind the scenes to steal the primary win (as RINOmney admitted). True Believers will condemn those of us who dare tell the truth about RINOmney, Dole, etc. - and it will be a huge waste of their energy. We are off the plantation. They are on it. They will vote for the RINO again and again and again. Nothing will change.
They will tell us if we do not vote for the RINO, there is no hope for change. Really? What change occurred under the two Bushes - a 12 year period, some of which controlled both houses of Congress?
It has become a lousy system.
........so Klavan and Coulter are arguing for “moderation” in “principle” and that as long as it (moderation) is done in the name of “politics” it’s ok.
Thomas Paine and I disagree.
Maggie Thatcher, no moderate on principle, once said “the trouble with spending other people’s money is that pretty soon you run out of it”.
Arguably, the same can be said on this issue, to wit:........when the Mitch McConnels and John Cornyn’s of the world start spending “my principles” pretty soon they run out of them”.....
Then what?
Which RINO? Cause I’d rather have a Democrat than Lindsey Graham.
It depends on what they support. The biggest, and perhaps last battle that will sink us Conservatives, for many years, is voting rights, which includes amnesty primarily, and voting for felons. Our loss of the electorate will forever end us as a party. I would take a rat who is against amnesty over a RINO who supports amnesty.
To all of those people I say, are you happy with the state of the country now that we have a President Obama???
I'm not.
I hated the fact that the only GOP candidate we could garner (playing by the GOPe rules, that is) was first McCain then Romney, but I'm certainly worse off personally, financially and medically since we have a President Obama!
Show me a difference.
A RINO. A dem will never do the right thing. A RINO will once in awhile at least.
The Republican Party is what it is. Conservatives will always have a place there and the more they participate the more influence they will have. This nation was founded and organized by compromise and accommodation. That will not change, no matter how much you want it to. Conservatives even on FR can not agree on a handful of principles, yet expect half the country to agree. Voting for candidates who come closest to those principles are our best hope even though they frequently fall short of our expectations. Flame away.
The devil you know is better than the devil you don’t. A RINO is worse than a Democrat for SOOOOO MANY reasons.
In those famous words: " At this point what difference does it make"!
It’s not even a hard question. I prefer a Democrat who’s honest about their agenda over a RINO, any day. We can win the discussion of liberal views vs. constitutional conservative. We can’t win with backstabbers in our midst.
Um as soon as this writer brings up Todd Akin and Christine O’Donnell he lost me. Those are not necessarily good examples of folks who should be in any public office to begin with
The Democrat is a known entity.
The RINO will tell you one thing and do another.
RINO is worse.
These days, it's not about Democrats vs. RINOs vs. Tea Party.
It's about Democrat-planted fake Republican third-party candidates.
That's the newest weapon in the Democrat arsenal. It's about splitting the Republican primary vote so that the Democrats can choose whom they run against.
Even if the Tea Party is successful in getting a strong primary candidate to run against the RINO, the Democrats will muddy the race with a fake candidate intended to keep the Tea Party candidate from winning.
We also need to reformt the primary process if we want true conservatives to win.
-PJ