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To: kingattax

Never happen.

Congress will not approve it.

Going from 2 Senators to 12?

I don’t think so, Tim.


2 posted on 02/22/2014 1:35:30 AM PST by djf (OK. Well, now, lemme try to make this clear: If you LIKE your lasagna, you can KEEP your lasagna!)
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To: djf

12 more democrat senators. NO THANKS.

How about push for conservative candidates instead? Throw all your money behind that. Then you will see real change.


4 posted on 02/22/2014 1:48:37 AM PST by FreedomStar3028 (Evil must be punished.)
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To: djf

I would say this. If they could get enough votes from the whole state and get this passed....then it would create a tide of interest in twenty other states (New York state already talks of interest, as does Colorado, Maryland, plus Florida and Arizona both could generate enough interest to split into two states each).

The point is...several states are bundled up now for failure of a massive type. Because of the political divisions now....lack of general agreement...and state lobbyists...division is the only practical answer left.

My suggestion would be...allow the six states of California to go forward (if they vote for such), with a five-year implementation period, and allow other states to meet the same five-year window period.

We could be talking of eleven states arriving, with twenty-two new Senators. If you think the Senate is a failure today with one-hundred senators.....just toss another twenty-two on top of that.

I will add this...if there ever was an opportunity for a third party...it’d be with three or four new states appearing with Tea Party or Independent Senators.

This would also have an effect on the Electoral College....making California more questionable. At least half of the new California states would be Republican-leaning (my belief).


7 posted on 02/22/2014 1:56:48 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: djf

I might consider it, if the seventeenth amendment was nullified. It is unconstitutional in my mind to on the one hand change from state legislature elected Senators, with a directed six year term, to direct elected representatives, and not change the term of office to reflect what the Constitution directs for representatives. That would be two years.

Nullifying the amendment would then place recall of Senators back on the table as well as turn their primary interest from representing, to guarding the interest of the sovereign state from which they are sent, and if they refuse to do so they are able to be immediately recalled. The issue would be what states would go along with nullification. Perhaps only red and only a portion of those.


16 posted on 02/22/2014 3:21:46 AM PST by wita
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To: djf

It sounds to me like they’re trying to Balkanize California: put the white moonbats in one section, put the Hispanics in one section, put the blacks in one section, and put the Asians in one section. But that doesn’t work in America, because we’re all so totally assimilated. We all interact with each other, and we all like each other. And we all have the opportunity for upward mobility. One of my friends at school once told me that his great-grandfather helped to build the Golden Gate Bridge, way back in the bad old days when they were importing cheap slave labor from China. Now his family owns a popular oriental restaurant in central Florida, and he is the second generation of his family to go to college. I can relate in a way. I am black, and the Civil Rights era of the 1960’s was brutal for my grandparents. But it was an unstoppable juggernaut that no evil racists politician could stand in the way of. Did you know that there was once a “law of the land” that made it illegal to teach black people how to read? Even back then they knew that knowledge is power.


20 posted on 02/22/2014 3:40:38 AM PST by jespasinthru (Proud member of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy)
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To: djf

“Never happen. Congress will not approve it.”

Then, whether red or blue “states”, maybe they should opt to just stay out. Given how things are today, why stay in?


23 posted on 02/22/2014 3:47:00 AM PST by ReaganGeneration2
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To: djf

“Going from 2 Senators to 12?”

Your assumption being 12 rat senators? If you took Frisco and LA out of the equation, you might find a few Republican senators in the mix.


30 posted on 02/22/2014 4:57:25 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Insurgent Conservative)
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