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To: cuban leaf

People assume everyone wants to be obedient to God if they truly understood they would go the hell. Consequently we try to convince them of the fate and hope they will “see the light”.

But what if the situation is really reversed; that everyone really doesn’t care about being obedient to God regardless of the consequences? If this last scenario is true, then God is on a rescue mission to save some of us from the fate that we purposely want for ourselves. We see the fruit and just don’t care if we eat it or not.


74 posted on 02/21/2014 10:01:26 AM PST by HarleyD ("... letters are weighty, but his .. presence is weak, and his speech of no account.")
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To: HarleyD

But what if the situation is really reversed; that everyone really doesn’t care about being obedient to God regardless of the consequences? If this last scenario is true, then God is on a rescue mission to save some of us from the fate that we purposely want for ourselves.


I think this more accurately describes our situation than most explanations do. And to make it worse, that last sentence touches on what I’ve tried to argue: That there really is no “proof” that God is who he said he is, at least as far as many non-believers are concerned, and the eternal suffering fate is so outlandish (especially if someone describing it also says the very God that sends you there is a “loving” God) that they simply refuse to believe it.

And once they have made the easy decision that the eternal suffering meme is baloney, it is very easy for them to throw the whole thing out. I see the reverse when I enter anti-Christian threads that always come to the “what kind of loving God would sentence most people to an eternity of conscious suffering” point. And as Christians try to connect these unconnectable dots for them, I enter the thread with, “Where does the bible say such a thing?”

It starts a dialogue that goes in a completely different direction. What is comical is the strongly “anti-christian” folks find themselves in a position of defending the “eternal suffering” meme. At least, it would be comical if it were not so serious.


76 posted on 02/21/2014 10:20:41 AM PST by cuban leaf
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