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February 17, 2014: Supreme Court may rule on guns outside the home, 9:23 p.m. EST
USA TODAY | February 17, 2014 | Richard Wolf

Posted on 02/18/2014 9:47:33 PM PST by neverdem

Here's the link.


TOPICS: US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; alangura; banglist; guncontrol; scotus; secondamendment; youwillnotdisarmus
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To: Travis McGee
Stick to your guns–no matter what!
If they come to take away your guns by force, they have declared war on the Constitution, and on you.

I would venture the War on Drugs has already been a war on the Constitution — and it has destroyed 90% of the Bill of Rights.

61 posted on 02/19/2014 9:54:35 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: neverdem; 2ndDivisionVet; doc1019; ThunderSleeps; Olog-hai; matthew fuller; Army Air Corps; ...
Revel: It is time to understand the USSC is a lawless bunch who rule for political and devilish reasons.
Theoria: That was Scalia and crew with Heller. They helped put limitations on gun ‘rights’.

Despite what some people think, Scalia is not a Constitutionalist; support of the War on Drugs and Constitutionalism are mutually exclusive, as the War on Drugs has damaged 90% of the Bill of Rights:

Amendment 10 — Destroyed by combining “necessary and proper” with the intrastate/interstate regulation of Wickard.
Amendment  9 — Everything. Seriously, EVERYTHING about the War on Drugs is about the federal government exercising powers not expressly delegated by the Constitution.
From Justice Thomas’s Dissent in Raich:
“If the Federal Government can regulate growing a half-dozen cannabis plants for personal consumption (not because it is interstate commerce, but because it is inextricably bound up with interstate commerce), then Congress’ Article I powers – as expanded by the Necessary and Proper Clause – have no meaningful limits.”
Amendment  8 — Mandatory minimums and zero tolerance combine to make the punishments outweigh many of the “crimes”, even is you accept the crime as valid.
Amendment  7 — In [civil] asset forfeiture, the victims are routinely denied jury-trials even though the amount in controversy exceeds $20.
Amendment  6 — The clogging of the courts with drug-related cases erodes the notion of a “speedy trial” to a joke. Often drug charges are added on to the list of crimes, which can “taint” the jury w/ prejudices. Often police act on informants whose identities are “protected”, which impairs the ability to confront the accuser.
Amendment  5 — How does “Comprehensive Forfeiture Act of 1984” comply with “No person shall [...] be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law”?
Amendment  4 Kentucky v King
”The Fourth Amendment expressly imposes two requirements: All searches and seizures must be reasonable; and a warrant may not be issued unless probable cause is properly established and the scope of the authorized search is set out with particularity. [...] The proper test follows from the principle that permits warrantless searches: warrantless searches are allowed when the circumstances make it reasonable, within the meaning of the Fourth Amendment , to dispense with the warrant requirement.”
In other words: Yes, the fourth amendment requires warrants for searches, but… fuck that!

Amendment  3 — [Nope, nothing here... yet.]
Amendment  2 — Arguably, the “prohibited persons” from the `68 GCA.
Amendment  1 — Religious freedom is denied via the war on drugs ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employment_Division_v._Smith ), there are stories of “legalization”-advocacy publishers being raided/harassed.

62 posted on 02/19/2014 10:08:40 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: willywill

If you dont practice with your firearm all you have is an expensive club.


63 posted on 02/19/2014 10:12:20 PM PST by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific)
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To: OneWingedShark

You are absolutely right: Scalia’s claim to being a constitutionalist is laughable.

He’s another phony “conservative” happy to give the government more and more power so long as it (temporarily) does what he wants with it.


64 posted on 02/20/2014 6:30:57 AM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: OneWingedShark

I lost faith in the SCOTUS when they ruled it was constitutional to use eminent domain to take private property from one party and give it to another private party.


65 posted on 02/20/2014 8:08:28 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Theophilus

A bit of an over statement. As tools go, firearms are some of the simplest to use. I’d wager that 95% or more of the people who kill someone else with a firearm in the U.S. have little if any training.

Now are you better off training? Yes, but what are you training to do? If I spent 4 hours a week whacking pictures of baseballs with a bat in my office, how ready am I to go up against a pitcher?

After knowing the basic function of a firearm, mental preparation is the number one factor in using it effectively. Under what circumstances will you shoot someone? Are you going to hesitate if that circumstance presents itself?


66 posted on 02/20/2014 10:55:54 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Theophilus

I rather misunderstood your post, as I misunderstood which post you were replying to. I was speaking about an entirely different context.


67 posted on 02/20/2014 11:04:26 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Paulie
What I'd like to know is why does DHS have a need for this sort of ammunition, when the international community considers its use to be a war crime?!!
68 posted on 02/20/2014 12:34:57 PM PST by NJ_Tom (I don't worship the State; I don't worship the Environment - I only worship God.)
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To: SampleMan
"A bit of an over statement."

You're right of course. At close range, just point and click.

69 posted on 02/20/2014 1:09:45 PM PST by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific)
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