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The US Navy Is Ready To Deploy A Futuristic Laser Weapon That's Been Likened To 'Star Wars'
BI - AP ^ | 2-16-2014 | David Sharp

Posted on 02/17/2014 7:45:26 PM PST by blam

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To: sickoflibs; ThunderSleeps; Durus

This discussion reminded me of this incident...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUZu8bvxJs4

Falkland Islands, 1982:
The HMS Sheffield and the Argentinian Exocet missile.

Vicious things... watch how far above the waves this beast was flying...


81 posted on 02/19/2014 11:07:48 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: sickoflibs
You were the one who jumped in and posted that the ship need not worry about defense till a missile comes within a mile of the ship, completely ludicrous.

Actually I didn't say that at all. What I said was as a replacement for point defense (CIWS) an effective range of a mile or two is sufficient. We already have counter measures in place for other uses. Obviously a laser can't be used for anything over the horizon, so it's only utility is CIWS.

"What's your person interest in this fancy toy anyway"?

I don't have a personal interest other than I want the best weapons for the US military that money can buy.

82 posted on 02/19/2014 11:14:13 AM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: NFHale

Scary. There weren’t that many defenses against missiles back then. If I recall the first successful (in battle) missile vs. antiship missile intercept was in 1991. We have come a long way and still have a way to go to stay ahead of the Chinese (assuming Hillary doesn’t win or we will just give them the tech).


83 posted on 02/19/2014 11:34:46 AM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Durus; sickoflibs; ThunderSleeps

RE Scary:
Pucker factor of about 175 psi...

RE Chinese: Silkworm, I think their version is called.

That overhead image of the Sheffield, just damn... that thing slammed into it amidships, and just blew the crap out of it.

If memory serves me correctly, the Brits also sank the Argentinian Cruiser General Belgrano by submarine attack... Belgrano was previously the U.S. WWII Cruiser USS Phoenix.

The two sinkings happened within a few days of each other...

It only takes one missile to do the damage that it took a couple squadrons of Dauntless SBD-2D dive bombers and Torpedo bombers and their crews to do to the Japanese carriers Kaga, Akagi, Hiryu, and Soryu at Midway...


84 posted on 02/19/2014 11:55:36 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale; Durus; ThunderSleeps

Too bad these guys don’t have Dr Benton Quest to help them with the laser.

He made one that was much better than this one almost 50 years ago, it shot down that saucer with the robot spy spider in it.

But it wasnt a shipboard version


85 posted on 02/19/2014 1:55:16 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'Any path to US citizenship for illegals HERE is a special path to it ')
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To: sickoflibs; Durus; ThunderSleeps

OMG! Dr. Zinn’s Robot Spy!!

That episode freaked me out when I was a kid; I thought it was absolutely the coolest thing ever... and then the Mummy episode as well... and the Invisible Monster...

Best show ever...


86 posted on 02/19/2014 2:45:46 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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RE :”OMG! Dr. Zinn’s Robot Spy!!
That episode freaked me out when I was a kid; I thought it was absolutely the coolest thing ever... and then the Mummy episode as well... and the Invisible Monster...”

I saw it first run when very young and then about 50 times again after that. Fantastic. I like where the Mummy kills the bad guys.

The Robot spy"

Dr Quest's laser shot it down trying to fly away with the pictures of the laser:


87 posted on 02/19/2014 5:00:48 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'Any path to US citizenship for illegals HERE is a special path to it ')
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The Mummy episode was “The Curse of Anubis”. Awesome artwork from Doug Wildey.


88 posted on 02/19/2014 5:26:50 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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I’m not sure it is very black.

It has been under development since 1918 and the Navy has been working on it for perhaps 10 years and have nothing to show for it. Apparently it works but not well enough to be worthwhile


89 posted on 02/19/2014 6:34:34 PM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: sickoflibs

My thought on that: Murphy. He’s everywhere.


90 posted on 02/19/2014 7:02:49 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: NFHale
RE :”The Mummy episode was “The Curse of Anubis”. Awesome artwork from Doug Wildey.”

Not just that, but the suspenseful and scary (as a kid) background music and sound effects as the mummy took each step: ‘Bamp, Bamp, Bamp, DADA Dum’.
You must recall it on the spot too.

Same is true with the Spy Robot.

That was art.

91 posted on 02/19/2014 7:05:54 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'Any path to US citizenship for illegals HERE is a special path to it ')
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LOLO,

Shame on you for not flying a missile at a ship and proving that shooting it down too late rains deathly debris on it, before suggesting it here,

Next time try it out before you post an opinion in a comment here.

Is that poster for real?


92 posted on 02/19/2014 7:10:15 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'Any path to US citizenship for illegals HERE is a special path to it ')
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RE:”You’re right. Even if you hit it and destroy it, debris is probably going to hit you anyway. That can destroy antennas, take down radars, etc. You’re going to be hurting when the next one comes in. You really want to engage several miles away or better yet several dozen miles away.”

I think the scattering debris problem is when blowing it up with CIWS or a missile at very short range, like under one mile.

If they used this laser toy under the same dire situation on a incoming missile the debris is likely to be a fully intact missile with some burn etch marks hitting the ship.

I imagine that a spinning missile would sure be hard to keep a fixed point on to burn through it in any single spot, not a problem with the drones they plan on using it for.

93 posted on 02/19/2014 7:30:23 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'Any path to US citizenship for illegals HERE is a special path to it ')
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The Raytheon system I remember reading about worked by heating the mortar round enough to donate the warhead. Wouldn’t work against say a plain old armor piercing round. If I understand the physics of it and the MDA’s airborne laser a spinning or polished missile didn’t matter. They hit it with so much energy so quickly it can’t dissipate it...boom.


94 posted on 02/19/2014 8:54:22 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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RE :”The Raytheon system I remember reading about worked by heating the mortar round enough to donate the warhead. Wouldn’t work against say a plain old armor piercing round. If I understand the physics of it and the MDA’s airborne laser a spinning or polished missile didn’t matter. They hit it with so much energy so quickly it can’t dissipate it...boom.”

What is MDA’s airborne laser ?
Could you find a source for that on the internet?

95 posted on 02/20/2014 4:59:59 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'Any path to US citizenship for illegals HERE is a special path to it ')
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What is MDA’s airborne laser ?
Could you find a source for that on the internet?

Put "airborne laser testbed missile defense agency" into your favorite search engine. Lots of info and pics, a couple of neat videos.

96 posted on 02/20/2014 5:39:34 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: sickoflibs

The music was perfectly matched to the Mummy.

Nothing beats the Intro theme... BIG, BIG horns, jazz drums... the works. As a musician myself, that would have been cool to reproduce.

No cartoon out today even comes close.


97 posted on 02/20/2014 11:21:59 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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