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World's largest solar plant scorching birds in Nevada desert
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| 02/15/2014
| Fox News
Posted on 02/16/2014 2:30:44 AM PST by Fzob
A stretch of the Mojave Desert has been transformed by hundreds of thousands of mirrors into the largest solar power plant of its type in the world, but the milestone is being met with criticism from environmental groups concerned about the effect of solar energy on desert wildlife. The Ivanpah Solar Electric Generating System, sprawling across roughly 5 square miles of federal land near the California-Nevada border, formally opened Thursday after years of regulatory and legal tangles ranging from relocating tortoises to assessing the impact on plants. The $2.2 billion complex of three generating units, owned by NRG Energy Inc., Google Inc. and BrightSource Energy, can produce nearly 400 megawatts enough power for 140,000 homes. It began making electricity last year.
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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: boondoggle; brightsource; ivanpah; solarpower
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2.2 Billon for a 400 Megwatt power station is just asinine. A fossil fuel generators is around 1 mil per megawatt, about 1/5th the capital cost.
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posted on
02/16/2014 2:30:44 AM PST
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Fzob
To: Fzob
I think that might be off. in the last five years we rewired our plant, installed a scrubber on our 260MW unit, installed SNCRs on both units at a cost of 450 million. The unit total output is about 720MW gross.
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02/16/2014 2:42:12 AM PST
by
dynoman
(Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
To: Fzob
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posted on
02/16/2014 2:46:42 AM PST
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dynoman
(Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
To: Fzob
Total cost of The Dry Fork Station was 1.3 billion.
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02/16/2014 2:51:23 AM PST
by
dynoman
(Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
To: y'all
World's largest solar plant scorching birds in Nevada desert - FOX News Except that it's located in the Mojave Desert in San Bernardino County, California.
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posted on
02/16/2014 3:29:15 AM PST
by
deks
(Sic Semper Tyrannis)
To: Fzob
The $2.2 billion complex of three generating units, owned by NRG Energy Inc., Google Inc. and BrightSource Energy, can produce nearly 400 megawatts enough power for 140,000 homes. Google KILLS birds?
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02/16/2014 4:05:10 AM PST
by
Gaffer
(Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
To: SunkenCiv
There was a discussion on this impressive array of panels, earlier in the week. Not sure if it was you who posted it.
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posted on
02/16/2014 4:16:26 AM PST
by
NYer
("The wise man is the one who can save his soul. - St. Nimatullah Al-Hardini)
To: Fzob
It should be scorching global warming idiots like Algore.
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posted on
02/16/2014 4:17:31 AM PST
by
ZULU
(Magua is sitting in the Oval Office. Ted Cruz/Phil Robertson in 2016.)
To: anyone
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posted on
02/16/2014 4:26:23 AM PST
by
deks
(Sic Semper Tyrannis)
To: Fzob
If a developer had built that equivalent of homes in the desert the howls from liberals would have been heard all the way to Charlotte, NC. Since it’s a bunch of solar panels, they’re doing Gaia’s (liberals’ Earth goddess) work.
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02/16/2014 4:28:52 AM PST
by
Hardastarboard
(The question of our age is whether a majority of Americans can and will vote us all into slavery.)
To: Fzob
I like and sometimes feed birds leftover bread/pastry, but this is more tree-hugger worship. The birds will learn to avoid this, and can past this on offspring such as mice can do to trauma: http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2013/11/15/mice-inherit-the-fears-of-their-fathers/
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02/16/2014 4:44:16 AM PST
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daniel1212
(Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
To: daniel1212
The point is, this environmently pushed plant does more damage tot he environment than 10 fossil fuel plants. It’s like the wind farms, incredibly ugly, and doesn’t put out near what a smaller nuclear or fossil fuel plant can provide.
To: Fzob
Tree huggers hands over ears moving head side to side rapidly saying “La La La La La La.....” Loudly and with feeling.
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02/16/2014 4:56:43 AM PST
by
Vaquero
(Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
To: McGavin999
And, it will a ton of Windex to keep the glass clean in order to get maximum output.
To: Coldwater Creek
Another interesting point
To: Gaffer
To: Coldwater Creek
These are the high technology jobs that kids coming out of college need! Wiping the mirrors at the powerplant, much like being a barrista at Starschmucks requires a Bachelor degree.
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02/16/2014 5:31:43 AM PST
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Rodamala
To: McGavin999
The point is, this environmently pushed plant does more damage tot he environment than 10 fossil fuel plants. Its like the wind farms, incredibly ugly, and doesnt put out near what a smaller nuclear or fossil fuel plant can provide. Got it. I was addressing the reason why libs object to this, even though it is a treehugger project itself. "Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen." (Romans 1:25)
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02/16/2014 5:56:31 AM PST
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daniel1212
(Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
To: refermech
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02/16/2014 6:04:23 AM PST
by
Gaffer
(Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
To: Coldwater Creek; McGavin999; Rodamala
You can find articles and YouTube videos on the cleaning process, but I doubt that the low information and mis-information voters really want to know. Demagoguery rules supreme.
They have repellent coatings on them. We have had Teflon and repellent fabrics for decades.
There is not much difference in output between dirty and clean, but dust does lower output.
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