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Insurers: At least 20% of new ObamaCare sign-ups failed to pay their first premium on time
Hot Air ^ | February 14, 2014 | Allahpundit

Posted on 02/14/2014 10:20:45 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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1 posted on 02/14/2014 10:20:46 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And then, of those that paid, how many are actually in legitimate policies, and how many have botched enrolments and have just made payments on a non-existent policy?


2 posted on 02/14/2014 10:24:02 PM PST by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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I should add that I read somewhere else that a lot of these plans are “platinum” and are therefore unlikely to be “young healthies”, who would be wasting money on such comprehensive coverage; these are almost certainly mostly older and/or sicker enrollees who are about to sock the system with extensive and costly claims for treatment of those “pre-existing conditions” they couldn’t get treated before.


3 posted on 02/14/2014 10:27:15 PM PST by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This law is like a turd that won’t flush.


4 posted on 02/14/2014 10:27:26 PM PST by Viennacon
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I’ll point this out....all of this has an effect on the ongoing review by insurance companies for the mid-summer 2014 rate adjustment for January of 2015. If they reach an opinion that a thirty-percent rate adjustment is necessary...it’ll shock everyone this summer as the new rates come out for 2015.

The news media seems to think that the crisis period is over...but it gets into a more dire situation as they figure how badly they guessed at the right rate, and how few signed up and actually paid. It’ll be a shocker as folks get the rate news in July and start to figure their budget game for next year. Another thousand off the family budget? Can most folks find another thousand bucks just sitting around? Increase your deductible to get a lower monthly rate, then try to avoid going to the hospital at all?


5 posted on 02/14/2014 10:27:41 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

when the numbers look bad for government multiply it by 4-10 to get the REAL numbers..


6 posted on 02/14/2014 11:03:24 PM PST by mowowie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Poor” people not paying their bills. Expecting others to pay. Who’d a thunk it!


7 posted on 02/14/2014 11:08:18 PM PST by vpintheak (Thankful to be God blessed & chosen!)
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Phantom enrollees trying to help boost Obamacare enrollment stats?
8 posted on 02/14/2014 11:23:09 PM PST by rdcbn
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To: Little Pig
I should add that I read somewhere else that a lot of these plans are “platinum” and are therefore unlikely to be “young healthies”, who would be wasting money on such comprehensive coverage; these are almost certainly mostly older and/or sicker enrollees who are about to sock the system with extensive and costly claims for treatment of those “pre-existing conditions” they couldn’t get treated before.

Adam Smith's invisible hand working like clockwork....people are smart...gobmints are dumb.

9 posted on 02/15/2014 1:45:33 AM PST by spokeshave (OMG.......Schadenfreude overload is not covered under Obamacare :-()
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“...not paying their bills.”

Bills? Those letters I get are just all the junk paper work telling me how much my deductible pays for, what the doctors asked and what the insurance paid, etc. I don’t even look at all of that crap, especially now that Mr. Obama is paying for it all.


10 posted on 02/15/2014 1:58:36 AM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: spokeshave

People aren’t yet such sheeple that they won’t shop.

Even yet, being able to get into a premium plan means being able to pay for it, of course. The deep poverty set is still frozen out. Obamacare attempts to wrestle Jello, or something like that.


11 posted on 02/15/2014 3:09:21 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar for you if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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Quite possible. This thing has been portrayed as such a pot of jam that people could be practically pardoned for being misled.


12 posted on 02/15/2014 3:10:46 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar for you if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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MSNC host: Obamacare a ‘wealthy white men’ racist word
13 posted on 02/15/2014 4:01:55 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Little Pig

Actually I would have expected that number to be higher than 20 percent.


14 posted on 02/15/2014 4:29:37 AM PST by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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People signing up for multiple plans and buying one while not cancelling others?

More likely it is people signing up for plans, finding that they have to actually pay for the plans, saying BS on that, and staying uninsured.

Like shopping on-line, going to checkout, seeing how much items in your cart cost plus shipping and any taxes, then decide it is too expensive right now, leave the site and never empty your cart.

A business would never count this as a sale. A desperate for credibility government program counts it as a done deal.

15 posted on 02/15/2014 4:40:42 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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This MSNBC twit thinks Obamacare is a rich white men term? I guess Obama, and his supporters are all rich white men according to this article Obama embraces Obamacare
16 posted on 02/15/2014 4:57:06 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The 20% figure is a fraud.....that’s the number the administration is floating. Strange how they can’t find out anything else about who’s signing up but they know unequivocally that 20% haven’t paid. When these bastards say 20% just double that and you are at least in the ballpark!!


17 posted on 02/15/2014 5:33:42 AM PST by ontap
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The number is likely not nicley round. You are correct in that the real number is greater, like 37% or maybe 41%


18 posted on 02/15/2014 5:39:17 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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The news media seems to think that the crisis period is over

Absolutely correct: the website was just the alarm for approaching colossal incompetence. The website is the floating ice in the water, the actual insurance plans are the iceberg that the Titanic is bearing down on!!!!!!

19 posted on 02/15/2014 5:39:37 AM PST by ontap
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Translation of “at least 20% haven’t paid”: At most, 20% have paid and about 20% of those cases have been lost in cyberland.


20 posted on 02/15/2014 5:39:43 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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