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Should the President Be Impeached? The Obama Precedent and defunding the IRS.
am spectator ^ | 2/14/14 | j lord

Posted on 02/14/2014 8:43:11 AM PST by bestintxas

Should the President be impeached?

For setting the Obama Precedent?

Also known as those multiple of multiples of arbitrary changes to Obamacare? And launching the IRS on employers who refuse to hire fifty employees so they can avoid paying for health care? Not to mention using the IRS and the full power of the federal government to harass and intimidate all those Tea Party groups?

The headline in the Los Angeles Times, reads this way:

U.S. to further delay Obamacare employer mandate

One of countless stories on the subject appearing all across the media landscape the Times version began this way:

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration again delayed a requirement that large employers provide their workers with health benefits, offering businesses more relief from the president's health law deadlines.

Stop.

Let’s move ahead three years. To 2017 and this news story:

Washington, January 21, 2017

President Ted Cruz, citing what he called “The Obama Precedent” today unilaterally repealed Roe v. Wade, once again making abortion illegal in the United States.

The White House briefing room erupted in a chorus of anger as the President’s new press secretary joked that “the President found former President Obama’s pen and telephone hidden in a safe underneath a floorboard in the Oval Office.” The White House spokesman cracked that the safe had a note addressed “Dear Hillary” and held the safe’s combination.

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...


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KEYWORDS: defundirs; impeach; impeachobama; irsscandals
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Really not a question.

I would think that those people in the House who swore to uphold the US Constitution have, with the actions in hand of Obma, an OBLIGATION to initiate impeachment proceedings and let the impeachment itself bring forward the evidence at hand(which I thinnk is consderable)

1 posted on 02/14/2014 8:43:12 AM PST by bestintxas
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To: bestintxas
Impeach Obama for not doing the wrong thing the right way? No.

Impeach Obama for illegal, gross, and continual violations and contempt for the U.S.Constitution, the fundamental guardian of our God-given freedoms? YES!

2 posted on 02/14/2014 8:46:49 AM PST by PapaNew
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To: bestintxas

all members of the senate and house have decided that the only swearing they have to do is in reference to the American people

“eff those assholes”


3 posted on 02/14/2014 8:46:58 AM PST by bigheadfred
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To: bestintxas
yeah, i know..not w/ "Searchlight/Dirty" Reid et al in the Senate.
a extremely corruptable (put a penny in the slot) Senator

4 posted on 02/14/2014 8:50:45 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: bestintxas; All

As Americans, WE are used to patiently, and silently waiting for solutions to problems to come from the top down.

This lazy attitude has been the basis for most Corporate and Political Management structures in America for most of OUR History.

WE now have the ultimate in lazy, top-down, political structure: a rouge dictator whom WE allow to be above OUR Constitutional Law.

WE will continue to have the current Obama Dictatorship as long as the Chief Impeachment Official, ( CIO ), the Speaker of the House, is allowed by US to permit Obama to continue as a OUR Dictator.

In all of Obama’s public statements, he has told the truth to US only twice:
1.) “We are only five days away from fundamentally changing the United States of America.”

and

2.) “I have a pen and a telephone, and I will use them to issue Executive Orders whenever Congress fails to act.”

Obama has thus defined himself to be OUR Dictator, and formally gave US fair warning of his intentions to do so.

For reasons that border on High Treason to the United States of America, Boehner as Speaker of the House, has failed his Constitutional Duty to begin Impeachment Proceedings on B. Hussein Obama.

The Members of the US House of Representatives have refused to force Boehner to resign; then to elect a Speaker with the required Sense of Honor to do his/her Constitutional Duty to begin Formal Impeachment Proceedings on B. Hussein Obama.

If WE, the taxpayers, do not force the Members of the US House of Representatives to replace Boehner as Speaker with a new Speaker that will issue the necessary Articles of Impeachment on B. Hussein Obama, then WE, the lazy, silent majority taxpayers, deserve to continue to have OUR Liberties crushed by Dictator Obama.

The future of OUR Republic is, as always, in OUR hands.

DONT TREAD ON ME


5 posted on 02/14/2014 8:51:04 AM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: bestintxas

Yes he should be impeached, but no one has the balls to even try. besides, even if they managed their spines, the senate would have to vote on it and that will NEVER happen. Only way to rid ourselves of this cancer is a coup d’etat by the people themselves.


6 posted on 02/14/2014 8:51:07 AM PST by 12th_Monkey (One man one vote is a big fail, when the "one" man is an idiot.)
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To: bestintxas

Not with this bunch. To them it’s party/ideology that trumps the Constitution.

If we impeach this bass turd, we get the moron veep as POTUS, his entire cabinet and probably contemptuous staff will stay on.

What have we gained? Nothing


7 posted on 02/14/2014 8:51:28 AM PST by alice_in_bubbaland (When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes mandatory ... Thomas Jefferson)
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To: bestintxas
The comment, a reference to the defeated 2016 Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton, drew a scathing rebuke from a number of reporters who asked if the former Secretary of State’s narrow, 44-state loss to Cruz was cause for humor.



8 posted on 02/14/2014 8:52:03 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: bestintxas
YES..I'm not buying this idea that it's hard to do or that the American people are NOT behind the move. HE HAS BEEN THE MOST DESTRUCTIVE president ever...ON PURPOSE....if the GOP HAD A SPINE, HE NEVER WOULD HAVE BEEN ELECTED...PERIOD!.....and that's the truth
9 posted on 02/14/2014 8:52:21 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: bestintxas
At this point, the "law" is whatever you can get away with, as a liberal once told me. And this monster is getting away with crapping on the Constitution because no one with standing (Congressional RINO's) does anything about it.

Let this statement run to its logical conclusion if you want to see the horror of this mindset.

10 posted on 02/14/2014 8:54:27 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: bestintxas

No, Jeff. The POSOTUS, CONgress & USSC should be considered TRAITORS.

They, the facade of “government” orchestrated for the U.S.A. - United Socialists of America, should be held ACCOUNTABLE for crimes against the republic.

http://www.usdebtclock.org

Socialism Is LEGAL plunder. - Bastiat


11 posted on 02/14/2014 8:54:43 AM PST by PGalt
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To: skinkinthegrass

“yeah, i know..not w/ “Searchlight/Dirty” Reid et al in the Senate.
a extremely corruptable (put a penny in the slot) Senator”

you should read your copy of the Constitution.

The Senate has nothing to do with impeachment.


12 posted on 02/14/2014 8:54:56 AM PST by bestintxas (Every time a RINO bites the dust a founding father gets his wings.)
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To: bestintxas

The House Impeaches (Formally accuses)

The Senate tries the case (Guilty or Not)

So what you said is true.... Yet the post you were answering is VERY true also.


13 posted on 02/14/2014 9:05:33 AM PST by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: bestintxas

Impeach the first black president?

No way, Hussein.


14 posted on 02/14/2014 9:05:34 AM PST by 353FMG
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To: bestintxas
The left will start getting it soon.

What is happening with the repeated changes in Obamacare and the use of the IRS is setting precedent. And it is precedent that liberals will come to regret.

But not just with the executive. Anywhere, anyone who is in a position to enforce laws may simply choose which laws or portions of laws they'll enforce.

"No abortions in this County - we're not enforcing Roe v Wade" or "there will be no gay marriage in this County - I'm not enforcing that law" or "obamacare will not happen here - I'm not enforcing it and people are free to ignore it"...

County by County this will happen - and should start happening soon.

Finally beginning to hear this concept discussed! Been waiting!!!

15 posted on 02/14/2014 9:17:50 AM PST by Principled
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To: bestintxas
not the jury/judgement..
rem: Arlen Spectum's Scottish Laws
"comments"?..they were the jury. (^_-)

16 posted on 02/14/2014 9:18:07 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: bestintxas

I’d settle for just reducing the funding of the IRS to only that needed to do their core responsibility of processing income tax matters.


17 posted on 02/14/2014 9:26:30 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Freedom isn't free; nor is it easy. END ALL TOTALITARIAN ACTIVITY NOW.)
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To: bestintxas

“you should read your copy of the Constitution.

The Senate has nothing to do with impeachment.”

I think you might want to take your own advice:

“The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments.”

US Constitution, Article I, Section 3


18 posted on 02/14/2014 9:27:34 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

If the House impeaches Obama - he is still President. The Senate would never vote to remove Obama so your scenario of Biden assuming control is highly unlikely although even Biden might be preferable to Obama.

Whether Obama stays or goes is not the reason to impeach. The House should hold impeachment hearings to evaluate the evidence. If there is sufficient evidence then the rationale for impeachment is for Congress to do its job - nothing more / nothing less. Yes a spin-off benefit is thhat impeachment is added to Obama’s “accomplishments” in the history books and there is a record of his wrongdoing. But the real motivation should be for Congress to simply adhere to the Constitution.


19 posted on 02/14/2014 9:32:57 AM PST by plain talk
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To: PGalt
Socialism Is LEGAL plunder

But in America Socialism is unconstitutional and ILLEGAL, more weight on the scales for impeachment.

20 posted on 02/14/2014 9:59:51 AM PST by PapaNew
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