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Federal Court Says ‘Good Cause’ Requirement for Conceal-Carry Permits Violates the Second Amendment
Reason ^ | Feb. 13, 2014 | Damon Root

Posted on 02/13/2014 12:43:07 PM PST by neverdem

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit handed gun rights advocates a major victory today by invalidating San Diego, California’s requirement that conceal-carry permits only be issued to those gun owners who have a “good cause” to carry a concealed gun in public. According to local officials, “one’s personal safety is not considered good cause.” In his opinion for a divided three-judge panel of the 9th Circuit, Judge Diarmuid F. O'Scannlain rejected the local government’s approach as an unconstitutional infringement on the Second Amendment.

“In California,” the ruling observes, “the only way that the typical responsible, law-abiding citizen can carry a weapon in public for the lawful purpose of self-defense is with a concealed-carry permit. And, in San Diego County, that option has been taken off the table.”

As Brian Doherty noted on Tuesday, the U.S. Supreme Court is currently considering whether it will take up two other cases that also center on the Second Amendment’s reach outside of the home. This new ruling from the 9th Circuit makes it all the more likely that the question of gun rights in public will soon be addressed by the Supreme Court.

Today's ruling by the 9th Circuit in Peruta v. County of San Diego is available here.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 9thcircuit; banglist
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1 posted on 02/13/2014 12:43:07 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Wow. 9th circuit. Unexpected.


2 posted on 02/13/2014 12:44:47 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: neverdem

9th circuit actually got one right?

Well, that explains the weather. Hell’s froze over.


3 posted on 02/13/2014 12:45:27 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: neverdem

9th circuit actually got one right?

Well, that explains the weather. Hell’s froze over.


4 posted on 02/13/2014 12:45:27 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: neverdem

an amazingly intelligent result from a really awful court...

but... still...
all this should be avoided....

“,...the right of the people to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!!!!” (emphasis mine)

why are we even having to respond to attempted licensing, background checking, restricting.... all sorts of krapo that is patently UNCONSTITUTIONAL entoto!?


5 posted on 02/13/2014 12:45:53 PM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: neverdem

The 9th circus decided that? Wow.


6 posted on 02/13/2014 12:47:04 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Having some small say in who gets to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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To: Jewbacca

It WAS a divided opinion....


7 posted on 02/13/2014 12:49:20 PM PST by cincinnati65
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To: neverdem

Incredible.

The most liberal federal circuit in the country.


8 posted on 02/13/2014 12:49:50 PM PST by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: Steely Tom

I think they too are becoming alarmed at the dictatorial actions of the nutcase in the WH. Let’s hope so!


9 posted on 02/13/2014 12:52:45 PM PST by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: faithhopecharity

Agreed. We musn’t forget that they don’t have the right to infringe as much as they already do.


10 posted on 02/13/2014 12:53:14 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: neverdem

So the state and local governments have to tolerate open carry or freely grant concealed carry permits. I predict cognitive dissonance, brain freeze and payment of lots of 42 USC 1983 attorney fees.


11 posted on 02/13/2014 12:53:54 PM PST by Thud (Tthis is federal criminal extortion under 18 USC 1951, and Racketeering under 18 USC 1961. All of Co)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Steve Van Doorn; Syncro; ProtectOurFreedom; vrwc1; Citizen James; abigail2; ...
BANG! Get Alan Gura from the Heller McDonald decisions. Go after excessive fees too!
12 posted on 02/13/2014 12:53:57 PM PST by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: neverdem

I am shocked that California did something right for a change, meanwhile, on twitter, Piers Morgan(Who has armed guards protecting his Beverly Hills Mansion) is freaking out LOL..love it when Commie loons have a meltdown


13 posted on 02/13/2014 12:55:28 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: mrsmel

yes ...they don’t have any right to infringe at ALL


14 posted on 02/13/2014 12:55:46 PM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: Steely Tom
The most liberal federal circuit in the country.

Overall, yes. But federal appeals courts sit in randomly-drawn 3-judge panels, and the panel here included two conservative judges. (There are some on the 9th Circuit; they're just outnumbered.) There will probably be a motion for rehearing en banc, and I'll bet it gets granted. (In most circuit courts, that means rehearing by all of the judges on the Circuit, but the 9th Circuit is so big that an en banc rehearing is before 11 randomly-selected judges.)

15 posted on 02/13/2014 12:57:45 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Jewbacca
Hang tight. The 9th Circuit is known for having more decisions overturned by SCOTUS than any other court. It's not known as the “9th Circus” for nothing. And, as most of us know, any decision by SCOTUS concerning the 2nd amendment is just one dissenting opinion away from nullifying it. Just one vote. Given the bizarre opinion rendered by CJ Roberts for Obamacare, care to guess how that would go?
16 posted on 02/13/2014 1:00:52 PM PST by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: neverdem

“The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit handed gun rights advocates a major victory today by invalidating San Diego, California’s requirement that conceal-carry permits only be issued to those gun owners who have a “good cause” to carry a concealed gun in public. According to local officials, “one’s personal safety is not considered good cause.”

We have the same bs up in Northern California. Due to the increases and constant threat of criminal attacks in many of my fly fishing areas, I don’t go to those places any more.

Then come two more problems:

1. C&C permits are only granted for the county you live in. I seldom fish, hike or kayak in remote parts of my county. So if I ever got a permit, it would only be valid in my county not in the many other areas I would like fly fish, hike or kayak in.

2. Here in my county, even without a traffic violation, I can’t get a C&C permit for my personal safety, my wife’s or any grand kid with me.

It has been suggested that I get a waterproof pistol and carry it in plain sight when, I fly fish, hike, kayak or even drive in some areas.


17 posted on 02/13/2014 1:04:13 PM PST by Grampa Dave ( Obozo Care is a Trinity of Lies! Obozo Care is probably a serious Black Swan event.)
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To: DannyTN

I’m sure they were “mistaken,” from their viewpoint.


18 posted on 02/13/2014 1:14:39 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: neverdem

Do criminals need a good cause statement to conceal carry?


19 posted on 02/13/2014 1:15:58 PM PST by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: cincinnati65
Was it the full court or a panel? Those panels are a crap shoot - there are actually a couple of conservative justices on the bench, and the luck of the draw could have appointed them here.
20 posted on 02/13/2014 1:16:03 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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