Posted on 02/13/2014 5:23:29 AM PST by cotton1706
Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., panned a lawsuit against National Security Agency data collection filed by Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., saying that the bulk phone data collection program does not involve the Fourth Amendment.
"I think collecting data is not a Fourth Amendment activity if it's related to gathering intelligence to prevent a terrorist attack," Graham told the Washington Examiner. "It's not being used to prosecute anybody. This is an intelligence-gathering process and we'll leave it up to the courts to see if it somehow has violated the Fourth Amendment."
Paul told reporters that the program conflicts directly with the Fourth Amendment. "I just want you to go to a judge, have a person's name, and individualize their warrant," he said, explaining that he doesn't oppose spying or the National Security Agency's ability to review some phone records. "That's what the Fourth Amendment says. I'm not against going to an individual who we suspect, with a warrant, and getting their phone records, and then if they called 100 people, I'm not against looking at those people."
The lawsuit drew mixed reactions in the Senate. Virginia Democrat Tim Kaine said that the NSA program needs some curtailing, but suggested that the real problem lies with the nature of the authorization for the use of military force that provides the legal backdrop for what used to be called the war on terror.
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His fifteen minutes are almost up...
JMO
Well Linda, if it’s not a 4th amendment issue, then what is it?
“The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated...”
Let me ask you, do you feel secure in your papers and effects if they are being passed on to a government agency without your consent?
You are totally wrong. It is next to useless for its purported purpose - to prevent terrorism. But it is immensely effective for its actual purpose.
With respect. I spent many years working in this field. NSA activity does indeed meet the criteria of a “search.” Coloring it as “data collection” changes nothing.
I think you may miss the point of my argument.
My constitutionally protected personal papers etc are not being passed. The data is not mine, not in my possession.
The data in question is owned by AT&T.
Even if I do mind, I have no legal ability to prohibit AT&T from forking up all of the data.
In the old days, I’m sure my data was actually collected. In days of old, my extensive fax and telex traffic to numerous overseas locations was routinely monitored. I never had a problem though
I think that is exactly MY point
I see, upon rereading, that it is. My apologies for jumping for the keyboard too quickly.
What lying sack o Shiite.
Makes blackmail so easy, Lindsey. Just ask CJ John Roberts...
5.56mm
FULG!
“The NSA is not warantlessly searching nor seizing the property of citizens. The NSA is collecting data amassed by third party cell phone providers.”
Sure. Like my emails.
Poofter boy will go POOF!
The NSA probably has pictures of Grahmnesty broken over like a shotgun. I am not comfortable with the apparent level of blackmail coming out of our corrupt capital.
It’s time for Lindsey to go.
Doing the dirty work so democrats won’t have to.
Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!
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Which means, of course, that after review when no link to terrorism is found the data is deleted forever, right? < /sarc >
When will this Nancy Boy be primaried?
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