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To: INVAR

The debt ceiling battles were previously fought and lost.

Repeating the same action in the vain hope of a different outcome is the definition of insanity.

Unless the Senate is regained, there is little hope of any legal change to be implemented by the Congress in 2014.

There are those here who are convinced the Chief Justice is bought. That is in my view unlikely and he is going to get several cracks at Obamacare. Rush was ranting today about illegal Obama actions. I have never heard Rush say he has read the law so can’t state with certainty if he is correct. If there are several sentences “as directed by the Secretary”, all is lost short of revolution.


170 posted on 02/12/2014 12:04:10 PM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: bert
The debt ceiling battles were previously fought and lost.

Wrong. The leadership broke and ran away from those attempting to hold the line, and negotiated a surrender behind their backs because they could not handle the political heat.

Thats called cowardice.

Unless the Senate is regained, there is little hope of any legal change to be implemented by the Congress in 2014.

'Legal change'??? Irrelevant. "Legal" now means whatever Obama says is legal, because your GOP leaders surrendered and have let him get away with making and changing the law on his whim, rendering Congress itself, irrelevant.

Now you have committees writing Executive Orders for Obama to sign, totally bypassing the need for Congress altogether.

all is lost short of revolution.

The 'revolution' is already come. That is what Hope and Change were all about. That is what 'Fundamental transformation' meant. But people like you lecture us about not fighting a battle we will lose, when what was lost is the Republic and the country itself.

Because people like you and your leadership surrendered to the coup and joined the tyrants in going to war against those attempting to stop the lawlessness.

175 posted on 02/12/2014 12:15:15 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: bert
The debt ceiling battles were previously fought and lost.

Not so. Reagan approved the increase in 1987 only after he vowed to lend support to a new anti-spending, budget-balancing bill by Senators Phil Gramm (R-Texas), Ernest Hollings (D-S.C.) and Warren B. Rudman (R-N.H.).

President Obama's intimate familiarity with the congressional debt ceiling battle was what led him to sign the Budget Control Act of 2011.

180 posted on 02/12/2014 1:07:15 PM PST by kabar
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