Posted on 02/09/2014 8:05:52 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
According to recent polls, some 81 percent of adult Americans believe in heaven, and fully 80 percent expect to go there when they die. By comparison, about 61 percent believe in hell, but less than 1 percent think its likely they will go there. In other words, a slight majority of Americans still believe hell exists, but genuine fear of hell is almost nonexistent.
Even the most conservative evangelicals dont seem to take hell very seriously anymore. For decades, many evangelicals have downplayed inconvenient biblical truths, neglecting any theme that seems to require somber reflection. Doctrines such as human depravity, divine wrath, the exceeding sinfulness of sin, and the reality of eternal judgment have disappeared from the evangelical message.
The trend has not escaped everyones attention. Thirty years ago, for example, Martin Marty, religious historian, professor at the University of Chicago Divinity School, and critic of all things evangelical, delivered the Ingersoll Lecture on Immortality at Harvard Divinity School. The title of his message was Hell Disappeared. No One Noticed. Martys research had failed to turn up a single scholarly article dealing with the subject of hell in any significant theological journal over the previous century. Citing the dearth of attention being given to so large a topic, Marty suggested that if evangelicals really took seriously what Scripture says about eternal punishment, someone with a voice should notice.
Almost no one did. Eighteen years later, The Los Angeles Times featured a front-page article titled Hold the Fire and Brimstone, pointing out that many style-conscious evangelical church leaders were purposely omitting the theme of divine retribution:
In churches across America, hell is being frozen out as clergy find themselves increasingly hesitant to sermonize on a story line that no longer resonates with churchgoers. [According to] Harvey Cox Jr., an eminent author, religious historian and professor at the Harvard Divinity School, You can go to a whole lot of churches week after week, and youd be startled even to hear a mention of hell.
Hells fall from fashion indicates how key portions of Christian theology have been influenced by a secular society that stresses individualism over authority and the human psyche over moral absolutes. The rise of psychology, the philosophy of existentialism, and the consumer culture have all dumped buckets of water on hell.
The article profiled an evangelical pastor who said he believes in hell, but (according to the Times) youd never know it listening to him preach . He never mentions the topic; his flock shows little interest in it. Asked why the doctrine of hell has gone missing, this pastor replied, It isnt sexy enough anymore.
The article also quoted a well-known seminary professor who more or less agreed. Hell, he said, is just too negative . Churches are under enormous pressure to be consumer-oriented. Churches today feel the need to be appealing rather than demanding.
The article closed with a quote from Martin Marty, almost two decades after his famous lecture on the subject. He agreed that market-driven concerns are the main reason hell is being expunged from the evangelical message:
Once pop evangelism went into market analysis, hell was just dropped. When churches go door to door and conduct a market analysis they hear, I want better parking spaces. I want guitars at services. I want to have my car greased while Im in church.
Years of indifference finally paved the way for open hostility. In the first decade of the new millennium, certain prominent figures in the emergent church declared war on the biblical doctrine of hell. The groundswell seemed to crest a couple of years ago with the publication of Rob Bells bestselling book Love Wins. Bell argued that its absurd to think a loving God would ever damn anyone to eternal punishment. He portrayed Gods love as a force that clashes with and ultimately eliminates the demands of justice. In the storyline Bell envisions, God requires no payment or punishment for sin. The divine response to evil is always remedial, never punitive. Furthermore, the wages of sin are mild, temporary, and reserved only for grossly malevolent villainsmass murderers, child rapists, tyrants who engineer genocide, and (one supposes) Christians who tell unbelievers they should fear God. When its all over, everyone will be together in paradise.
In such a system, Gods righteousness is compromised, repentance is optional, atonement is unnecessary, and the truth of Gods Word is nullified. In other words, nothing of biblical Christianity is left. Once anyone sets out to tone down or tame the hard truths of Scripture, thats where the process inevitably leads.
Only a few leading voices in the evangelical movement have lobbied boldly for a more orthodox approach to the doctrine of hell. They seem to be outnumbered by those who think the disappearance of hell is a positive development.
Some have proposed alternative ways to speak of sin and judgment in gentler, toned-down, and more refined and socially acceptable terminology than Scripture uses. Sin is deemed wrong not because it is an offense against the righteousness of God, but because of the hurt it causes others. Hell is described not as a place of eternal punishment but simply as a realm apart from God. In the reimagined eschatology of stylish evangelicals, no one is ever sent to hell; sinners actually choose to spend eternity apart from Godand the hell they suffer is merely an abundance of what they loved and desired the most. Hell is necessary only because God is reluctant to overrule anyones free will. Therefore, with a more or less benign acquiescence, He ultimately defers to the sinners choice. Gods righteous indignation has no meaningful place in such a scenario.
It is a serious mistake to imagine that we improve Scripture or enhance its effectiveness by blunting its sharp edges. Scripture is a sword, not a cotton swab, and it needs to be fully unsheathed before it can be put to its intended use. The word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart (Heb. 4:12). The gospel is supposed to be an affront to fleshly pride, offensive to human sensibilities, foolishness in the eyes of worldly wisdom, and contrary to all carnal judgments.
No Christian teaching exemplifies those characteristics more powerfully than the doctrine of hell. It is an appalling truth. We rightly recoil at the thought of it. The doctrine of hell thus stands as a warning and a reminder of what a loathsome reality sin is. No reasonable or godly person delights in the reality of eternal damnation. God Himself says, As I live, declares the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked (Ezek. 33:11).
Yet the severity of Gods wrath and the woes of hell are prominent in Scripture. The New Testament speaks more vividly and more frequently about hell than the Old Testament does. In fact, Jesus Himself had more to say about the subject than any other prophet or biblical writer. Far from smoothing over the difficulties that seem to embarrass so many evangelicals today, Jesus said:
Do not fear those who kill the body, and after that have nothing more that they can do. But I will warn you whom to fear: fear him who, after he has killed, has authority to cast into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him! (Luke 12:45)
If your hand or your foot causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life crippled or lame than with two hands or two feet to be thrown into the eternal fire. And if your eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life with one eye than with two eyes to be thrown into the hell of fire. (Matt. 18:89)
We do no one any favors by downplaying the truth of Gods wrath or neglecting to mention the severity of His judgment. We certainly dont eliminate the threat of hell by refusing to speak or think of it. If we truly believe what the Bible teaches about the eternal fate of unbelievers, it is in no sense loving to remain silent and refuse to sound the appropriate alarm.
What, after all, is the good news we proclaim in the gospel? It is not an announcement that no one really needs to fear God or fret about the possibility of hell. As a matter of fact, there would be no glad tidings at all if God merely intended to capitulate to the stubborn will of man and forgo the demands of His perfect righteousness.
The good news is even better than most believers understand: God made a way for His righteousness and His love to be fully reconciled. In His incarnation, Christ fulfilled all righteousness (satisfying, not nullifying, the demands of His law). In His death on the cross, He paid the price of His peoples sin in full (assuring the triumph of perfect justice). And in His resurrection from the dead, He put a powerful exclamation mark on His own perfect, finished work of atonement (thus sealing the promise of justification forever for those who trust Him as Lord and Savior).
That is the message we must declare to a worldly culture utterly lacking any real fear of God. We cannot do it faithfully or effectively if from the very outset we have omitted the harsh truth Scripture declares about the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty (Rev. 19:15).
Even if you are right, those you love will be annihilated and that too should trouble you greatly.
Let me put it this way: I love my flowers. But some of them just don't bloom well, and some don't bloom at all. So I pull up the duds and throw them on the compost heap with the worms and manure. They will never bloom again, although they will still serve me for my purposes.
The old, “I’m basically a good person, so why would a God send me to he’ll for eternity” nonsense thinking. I’ll bet less than 10% of Americans are saved.
LOL
Its obvious what church you belong to.
DManA is a Christian. He’s not going to hell.
43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:
48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
His will be done.
You sure know how to attract attention.
Met a young lady that said she didn’t believe in God.
I told her I would rather believe in God and just turn to dust when I die, than to face Him in the end if I was wrong.
IMHO, same goes for hell. It may not be hot, but you will find your worst fears there.
LOL
I know, right? I LOLed, too!
I agree with you as far as what is described as the 'First Fruits', however on the whole of the remainder, we do differ:
1 Thessalonians 4:
16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.
17 Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord.
Rev 20:
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
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12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; [BTW:] and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
God believes in Hell...
The LORD Jesus Christ spoke about Hell more than He spoke about Heaven...
There is a literal Hell and people either go to Heaven or they go to Hell,,,
Their choice...
we+ll at least the SDA do believe in somwe kind of Hell..
The Mormons have 3 heavens and no hell and no lake of fire...
ALL of us have sinned.
Until we reach the point where we realize that He is the only one who can take our sins away, we are not truly following his path.
Give your trust and love to Him and He will help you overcome your problem.
Been there. Now, I am His servant. Not a preacher. Not a prophet. Just a son of God who loves Him.
I don’t know how to put a number on it, but if I were a betting man, I would bet 10% is actually a rather generous number. I know from reading Free Republic (not to mention Matthew 7) that many who believe themselves saved are woefully lost—and these are generally serious thinking people who are concerned with ideas and things like morality. Most people in this world are unthinking and frivolous.
A.W. Tozer died just over 50 years ago. He lived in a much different, and most here would argue, more moral and Christian America. Even so, Dr. Tozer believed 90% of CHURCH MEMBERS in his day were actually lost. Billy Graham has estimated that 85% of those who made professions of faith at his crusades were lost. Dr. W.A. Criswell, the prominent mid-century Southern Baptist, believed he would only see 25% of his church members in heaven. These are scary numbers to think about.
There is a huge problem in our land: the problem of false conversion. Men have no idea what the Bible really says about the way of salvation. They know what other men say. They know what their parents, pastor, or priest has said, but they don’t know what God has said. And they have so little concern with eternity they trust they have been taught God’s Word. But we are not to live that way. We must always compare what we have been taught with the Word of God to see that it is so, just as the Bereans.
There is no scarier passage in all of Scripture than Matthew 7:21-23.
21 Not everyone who says to me, Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name? 23 And then will I declare to them, I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.
I cannot imagine a more devastating plight than to stand before the Lord of Glory on that day and hear the four words “I never knew you.”
Great analogy!
Aren't you glad there are intellectually enlightened whizkids to tell us toofless snake-handlers what Jesus really meant?
*tucks snuff into jaw*
>> “God believes in Hell.” <<
Yes, he does, and so will all of those that don’t ‘believe’ in him, some day.
As Randall Terry used to say on his radio program, “they’re going to be ‘on fire’ for Jesus.”
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“For while we were still helpless, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. For one will hardly die for a righteous man; though perhaps for the good man someone would dare even to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from the wrath of God through Him.”
“...saved from the wrath of God through Him.” There is wrath, and the wrathful One HIMSELF solved our dilemma while we were...helpless. Isn’t He wonderful?!?
I believe in Hell, per Scripture, and shudder at it. I want no one to go there, really (though I’ve dangled more than a few enemies over it before forgiving them, sadly!).
But we have to agree with God here. He has seen fit to allow man to choose, and gave Him only two choices: wrath or no wrath. The wrath of God IS COMING, though! Call on the name of The Lord and be saved from the wrath of God through Him.
The vast majority of Catholics in the world today have no valid Mass to attend and missing a counterfeit Mass is not a sin.
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