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The Disappearance of Hell
ligonier.org ^ | 2/1/14 | John MacArthur

Posted on 02/09/2014 8:05:52 AM PST by SoFloFreeper

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To: DManA
You totally ignored everything I said. Does the fact that you may be wrong and those you love and care about may face eternal separation from God concern you.

Even if you are right, those you love will be annihilated and that too should trouble you greatly.

81 posted on 02/09/2014 10:53:31 AM PST by LukeL
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To: Rennes Templar
I think there is a devil, or devils, but not hell. I don’t think it’s God’s plan to have billions of souls burning in a physical fire for eternity. I think He is more merciful, and he has other ways to punish us.

Let me put it this way: I love my flowers. But some of them just don't bloom well, and some don't bloom at all. So I pull up the duds and throw them on the compost heap with the worms and manure. They will never bloom again, although they will still serve me for my purposes.

82 posted on 02/09/2014 10:55:06 AM PST by Albion Wilde (The less a man knows, the more certain he is that he knows it all.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

The old, “I’m basically a good person, so why would a God send me to he’ll for eternity” nonsense thinking. I’ll bet less than 10% of Americans are saved.


83 posted on 02/09/2014 10:57:33 AM PST by Old Yeller
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To: DManA
"You just misunderstand Him"

LOL

84 posted on 02/09/2014 10:58:28 AM PST by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: DManA

Its obvious what church you belong to.


85 posted on 02/09/2014 11:04:04 AM PST by right way right (America has embraced the suck of Freedumb.)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel; DManA

DManA is a Christian. He’s not going to hell.


86 posted on 02/09/2014 11:05:58 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: DManA
Mark Chapter 9, Jesus speaking:

43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:

48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

87 posted on 02/09/2014 11:07:27 AM PST by aLurker
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To: LukeL

His will be done.


88 posted on 02/09/2014 11:12:05 AM PST by DManA
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To: DManA

You sure know how to attract attention.

Met a young lady that said she didn’t believe in God.

I told her I would rather believe in God and just turn to dust when I die, than to face Him in the end if I was wrong.

IMHO, same goes for hell. It may not be hot, but you will find your worst fears there.


89 posted on 02/09/2014 11:21:39 AM PST by wizr (We are "one Nation, under God " or "one nation, trod under ". Keep the Faith.)
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To: CatherineofAragon; DManA
"You just misunderstand Him"

LOL


I know, right? I LOLed, too!

90 posted on 02/09/2014 11:21:39 AM PST by Albion Wilde (The less a man knows, the more certain he is that he knows it all.)
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To: Former Fetus
But after the cross, the believers go straight away to heaven, because to be absent from the body is to be present with Jesus (2 Cor. 5:8).

I agree with you as far as what is described as the 'First Fruits', however on the whole of the remainder, we do differ:

1 Thessalonians 4:

16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.

17 Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord.

Rev 20:

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

...

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; [BTW:] and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

91 posted on 02/09/2014 11:22:20 AM PST by Errant (Surround yourself with intelligent and industrious people who help and support each other.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

God believes in Hell...

The LORD Jesus Christ spoke about Hell more than He spoke about Heaven...

There is a literal Hell and people either go to Heaven or they go to Hell,,,

Their choice...


92 posted on 02/09/2014 11:24:25 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Former Fetus

we+ll at least the SDA do believe in somwe kind of Hell..

The Mormons have 3 heavens and no hell and no lake of fire...


93 posted on 02/09/2014 11:27:20 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: elcid1970

ALL of us have sinned.

Until we reach the point where we realize that He is the only one who can take our sins away, we are not truly following his path.

Give your trust and love to Him and He will help you overcome your problem.

Been there. Now, I am His servant. Not a preacher. Not a prophet. Just a son of God who loves Him.


94 posted on 02/09/2014 11:31:46 AM PST by wizr (We are "one Nation, under God " or "one nation, trod under ". Keep the Faith.)
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To: Old Yeller

I don’t know how to put a number on it, but if I were a betting man, I would bet 10% is actually a rather generous number. I know from reading Free Republic (not to mention Matthew 7) that many who believe themselves saved are woefully lost—and these are generally serious thinking people who are concerned with ideas and things like morality. Most people in this world are unthinking and frivolous.

A.W. Tozer died just over 50 years ago. He lived in a much different, and most here would argue, more moral and Christian America. Even so, Dr. Tozer believed 90% of CHURCH MEMBERS in his day were actually lost. Billy Graham has estimated that 85% of those who made professions of faith at his crusades were lost. Dr. W.A. Criswell, the prominent mid-century Southern Baptist, believed he would only see 25% of his church members in heaven. These are scary numbers to think about.

There is a huge problem in our land: the problem of false conversion. Men have no idea what the Bible really says about the way of salvation. They know what other men say. They know what their parents, pastor, or priest has said, but they don’t know what God has said. And they have so little concern with eternity they trust they have been taught God’s Word. But we are not to live that way. We must always compare what we have been taught with the Word of God to see that it is so, just as the Bereans.

There is no scarier passage in all of Scripture than Matthew 7:21-23.

“21 Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’

I cannot imagine a more devastating plight than to stand before the Lord of Glory on that day and hear the four words “I never knew you.”


95 posted on 02/09/2014 11:36:20 AM PST by .45 Long Colt
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To: Albion Wilde

Great analogy!


96 posted on 02/09/2014 11:37:20 AM PST by wizr (We are "one Nation, under God " or "one nation, trod under ". Keep the Faith.)
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To: Albion Wilde; DManA
"I know, right? I LOLed, too!"

Aren't you glad there are intellectually enlightened whizkids to tell us toofless snake-handlers what Jesus really meant?

*tucks snuff into jaw*

97 posted on 02/09/2014 11:50:01 AM PST by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: Tennessee Nana

>> “God believes in Hell.” <<

Yes, he does, and so will all of those that don’t ‘believe’ in him, some day.

As Randall Terry used to say on his radio program, “they’re going to be ‘on fire’ for Jesus.”
.


98 posted on 02/09/2014 11:53:21 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: SoFloFreeper

“For while we were still helpless, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. For one will hardly die for a righteous man; though perhaps for the good man someone would dare even to die. But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from the wrath of God through Him.”

“...saved from the wrath of God through Him.” There is wrath, and the wrathful One HIMSELF solved our dilemma while we were...helpless. Isn’t He wonderful?!?

I believe in Hell, per Scripture, and shudder at it. I want no one to go there, really (though I’ve dangled more than a few enemies over it before forgiving them, sadly!).

But we have to agree with God here. He has seen fit to allow man to choose, and gave Him only two choices: wrath or no wrath. The wrath of God IS COMING, though! Call on the name of The Lord and be saved from the wrath of God through Him.


99 posted on 02/09/2014 11:59:15 AM PST by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: stanne
In fact, not going to Mass on Sunday is a mortal sin.

The vast majority of Catholics in the world today have no valid Mass to attend and missing a counterfeit Mass is not a sin.

100 posted on 02/09/2014 12:01:58 PM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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