Posted on 02/09/2014 6:35:33 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
That looks Russian!
Never do a job with tweezers if a sledge hammer is available.
given the possible turkish enemies in the med, land-based maritime patrol and attack aircraft, land-based SSMs, and submarines this is a target unless they also build an escort group which i am sure tirkey cannot afford.
....... And, the Israelis will wait until the thousand troops are on board with the 150 vehicles and tanks before sinking her..........
To an absolute certainty, this ships life depends entirely upon some future Israeli prime minister not getting too upset at Turkey.
The Brits did ok with their “one shot” VSTOL carriers in the Falklands in the early 1980s.
As it is, this probably isn’t meant to function in it’s “carrier” role, but rather to put troops various places under the protective cover of the Turkish Air Force.
As to it being sub bait ... what’s the Israeli equivilant of the Navy Cross again?
It’s obvious that the days of big ships is over.
The money is better spent on counterintelligence, SF, and smart missiles.
WWII was a long time ago. Just ask my daddy (active USMC 1944-1974). He’s seen some changes.
More likely a training platform for the 2018 winter olympics.......
The British didn’t have to worry about proper fighter aircraft protecting the anti shipping strike planes. If the Argentines had the bases to run escort Mirages over their Etendards and Skyhawks the British would have been in serious trouble.
In the Eastern Med there are plenty of bases for dangerous aircraft.
I’ve just received a book in the mail about Admiral Gorshkov and this very subject.
Hope to have it read soon.
Currently reading one on Wehrmacht reconnaissance units that I bought online. More my specialty.
Regarding the ski jump, allegedly it is an integral part of the hull design engineering. At least that’s what the Aussies said in denying that they were going to buy F-35Bs to go along with their As and use it as a true light carrier.
But it will certainly allow the Turks and Aussies to operate F-35s, if they choose to do so at some point down the road.
I thought the Argies could run proper top cover ( they were using Mirages for shipping strikes in addition to their SuEs and A-4s), just chose for the small flight low level penetration mission to avoid the Shars and ship based AAW (Sea Dart).
As it is, this ship will probably not need to operate outside the protective CAP provided by the Turkish AF. So it’s a focus on the ships assault capabilities. Of course having some F-35s on board for nearby/quick turnaround CAS wouldn’t hurt, with land based fighters providing top cover.
IIRC the Mirages didn’t have the fuel to get into fights with the Harriers and so wouldnt. They could do shipping strike with the range,but unescorted.
Falklands you say?
How many of Turkey’s neighbors have an old Exocet collecting dust.
Just waiting for that special day?
Thanks for the posting. Germans also developed four and six engine long range flying boats. Not many reports about their effectiveness. Or notice from anywhere else including US during WWII has been paid to them.
Re long and medium ranging anphibian supersonic aircraft fighters and bombers. Could be the solution for small nations which cannot afford or maintain expensive aircraft carriers including the complex defence of such. The last time we toyed with that concept was the “Skate”. These things wether used solitary or a group (wing) could be supplied by subs. Sooner rather than later FR’s will be seeing a posting on this concept.
It's more a matter that changing it is more trouble than it's worth - cost savings and performance improvement would be very marginal.
And it does keep options for the future - both in terms of operating our own STOVL aircraft in the future (which would, at present, of course, mean purchasing F-35Bs) or as additional decks for allied ships we're operating alongside.
Really? What’s the standoff range of an Exocet? I am thinking five Gripens could easily sent that thing into the drink. Do the Turks have any frigates or destroyers to escort her?
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