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To: FredZarguna

The problem is congress not the president. We need to keep fighting so there is no amnesty bill to sign any time this decade.

When you consider districts and Senate pickups I don’t think there will be a Democrat leaning congress in 2017 to give an amnesty bill to a GOP president.

My problem with Walker and Rand Paul is they being heartless and blase towards working people. It could hurt them with turnout of the GOP base and right leaning working class voters. I actually think it is bad politics to promote amnesty lite and mass immigration.

GOP needs to worry about winning enough white voters in Ohio and Iowa and then moving on to other states in midwest.

On enforcing immigration law:
http://americasvoice.org/blog/wisconsin-governor-scott-walker-flips-from-2010-position-says-he-would-now-push-back-against-sb-1070-style-laws/

I think that it would be a huge distraction for us in this state,” Governor Walker said according to Politico. “I don’t think that falls into one of our priorities, so I would hope the Legislature doesn’t spend a lot of time focusing on that and instead focus on the areas I mentioned.”


60 posted on 02/05/2014 9:39:21 PM PST by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: ObamahatesPACoal
Read my homepage, so you understand where I come from with regards to unions. Particularly white collar unions. I have personal experience in this area, and you couldn't be more wrong.

An animosity towards service and government labor unions is not being "heartless or blase" toward working people. Government unions are on a collision course with reality. We are not a rich country anymore, and we simply cannot afford to pay people who work 1200 hours per year, on average, twice what the average american family earns with two wage earners working 4000 hours/year.

We also cannot afford to offer state and education workers defined benefit plans -- not just for our own good, but for their good as well. Defined benefit plans will absolutely crater when we reach the point where we have to monetize the Social Security debt. And make no mistake: we will at some point need to monetize the Social Security debt, and when we do, everyone on a fixed-benefit pension is going to be destroyed.

What people in Ohio who voted for Obama because he "saved GM" were not told is that everyone currently working was screwed in that deal. UAW workers were screwed most of all, because current UAW workers are making a fraction of what they are paying to keep retired UAW pension and medical plans afloat.

The UAW is about to organize a Volkswagen plant in Kentucky. Do you think it's heartless to tell the people who are about to take that vote that their benefit packages are going to be used to keep paying people in Michigan who haven't worked in 30 years, and that they are never going to see a dime of their own pension money? Because I will guarantee you that Volkswagen isn't going to tell them that, and the UAW sure as hell isn't going to tell them that either.

The GOP needs to stop worrying about votes. The GOP needs to fire the Frank Luntzes and the Karl Roves and all the other brilliant tacticians. The GOP needs to start articulating a message that connects with people. Reagan did not go out of his way to send his message to blue collar workers. He presented a message that said he was not willing to accept the idea of an America in decline.

Yesterday, the pResident's spokesrat articulated a position that a reduced workforce participation of 2,000,000+ jobs because of 0bamacare is actually a positive thing, because people would be able to "reduce their hours to part-time in order to get better healthcare subsidies."

I have only heard ONE commentator point out a fact that is very obvious to any working person who pays taxes: When people reduce their work hours in order to receive subsidies, somebody else is working to pay for them. ONE person.

That's a message for working people [and for all people]: Do you really want to accept the idea that people working less is a good thing? Do you really want to live in an America where it's considered acceptable for you to stop working so other Americans can carry you?

Why has not a single Republican pol articulated that message? Because squishy RINO's tell them that opposition to healthcare paid for by the sweat of others is "heartless."

BS.

What's heartless is to expect someone else to pay your bills because you don't want to work.

63 posted on 02/05/2014 11:27:36 PM PST by FredZarguna (Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!)
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