What worries me in the short term is the progressive republicans aligning with the other enemies and attempting to disarm us.
Continue the police state foolishness, or fight a war. Those are the choices. So far, political folks want to continue the foolishness.
If the government thinks they need to do it, they’ll do it. I mean, does anybody seriously doubt that Mr. I’ve Got A Pen And I’ve Got A Phone wouldn’t?
Scalia and Roberts should be replaced by men like Oliver Cromwell.
Any member of Congress, The Executive, or Judiciary that acts in such a way against US citizens should be impeached and removed from office(or worse)immediately!
I don’t know if Scalia is right (I hope he’s wrong), but any attempt at new internment camps would be a very bloody affair. No group of Americans will passively be put in such camps. Such an attempt could easily lead to civil war or revolution.
So, basically Scalia is admitting that “rule of law” and the whole notion of “constittutional rights” are fiction, that the government can do whatever it wants when it wants.
He’s not saying that is the right course; he’s only saying that it is the way things really are.
Not while I’m still breathing...
Have always believed since an early age, that History has a way of repeating ... Wish I was surprised though. Would make everything so much easier to be stupid. I’ll just walk through after they kill me to no surprise. I will worry about everyone else more than me, especially the stupid.
Nice sentiments for a guy who (almost) always sides with state power. But, good for him.
I don’t predict a Holocaust here in my lifetime. But, if there is, it will be overwhelmingly popular. And anybody who’s lived through the past 12 years can see that Republicans are just as hysterical as the Left.
If they come for conservatives it would be the last straw.
We know who DHS considers “potential terrorists”. Conservatives, returning war vets, gun owners and so on. They’ve already said that early on in the Obama administration.
Obama has already lashed out at his critics, saying they are the reason for his administration’s failures. See the O’Reilly interview on Sunday. And it is only get worst for Obama as his health care plan destroys what is left of already depressed economy.
Now this bombshell for Justice Scalia. The times are getting interesting.
I didn’t see anyone mention the ‘MAGIC’ intercepts.
We had broken both the Japanese Diplomatic and Naval codes and from this we knew that there were a number of effective spies working our military bases and defense plants along the Pacific coast.
If we had rounded up those spies Japan would have figured out how we did it and this would have prompted them to change their codes. Those codes were invaluable, we used them to set up Japan at the battle of Midway and we couldn’t risk losing them.
The internment of Japanese Americans was a cover that allowed the spies to be rounded up without alerting Japan. This was described in a book by David Lowman who was the NSA officer responsible for declassifying the Magic intercepts, “Magic: The Untold Story of U.S. Intelligence and the Evacuation of Japanese Residents from the West Coast During Ww II “.
― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
People don’t know history. The internment of the Japanese-Americans was wrong and even J. Edgar Hoover opposed it. He felt that the FBI had control over the small number of pro-Emperor devotees in the US (and basically did).
The government also rounded up over 5,000 German agents, citizens and non-citizen residents in both the US and from throughout Latin America where Germany had established many spy/sabotage operations, business fronts, and “friendship” societies”.
The “intelligence” on most of them was pretty accurate though a few were probably just non-involved citizens of German descent.
Over 1,000 Italians of various immigration statuses were also rounded up, mainly in the U.S. including Italians on Italian ships in port when war was declared against the Axis.
NOW, what most of you don’t know is that there was a very significant number of German (and a few Italian)/Americans who were extremely pro-Germany, pro-Hitler and pro-Nazi in the U.S.
FBI, ONI (Office of Naval Intelligence), industrial security agents, and local/state police intelligence units not only had lists of known “Bundists” and alien Germans, but also had thousands, if not tens of thousands of investigations of “suspect” people in the war industries.
When reading the govt reports on these “suspects”, it became very clear that they were thoroughly investigated for loyalty to the US and that the majority of them were cleared of any disloyalty, despite statements/suspicions against them.
However, a significant number (I don’t really know it, but estimate that it would number around 1,000 or more), were actually working against the U.S., often by sabotaging machinery and goods in the war industries. Others burned railroad bridges, set fire to warehouses, supplies, etc.
Some were arrested as enemy agents; others were reassigned in their jobs or banned from working in war industries.
This is an area of history that has not been thoroughly explored by historians. The sheer amount of reports that one would have to look at is in the thousands to tens of thousands of pages, or more, depending on what you are reading. Some ONI reports on German Agents in Latin America range up to 50-75 pages plus photos, exhibits etc.
And I’m not even mentioning the investigation of American Communists in both labor unions and spy rings in American
industry. Between 1933-41+, communists were deliberately behind many labor strikes (some justified, many not), which hurt the war effort.
A lot of old names show up in the Military Intelligence files, and some of these red leaders were later to show up in the leadership of the Hanoi Lobby and the Anti-Defense Lobby movements. Their only loyalty was to the Soviet Union and Stalin.
The number of documents concerning labor problems in MI files must be over 5,000 pages or more based on the few hundred that I have been able to review so far.
Since Russia was our “ally” during WW2, American Communists were handled differently than the Germans and Italians living here or in Latin America.
Unlike the Japanese-Americans, these people were a real threat to the survival of the United States, a story that has not been told honestly or fully by most historians (there are a few exceptions in the organization Historians of American Communism, HOAC).
As for unknown Soviet spy rings in the US during the 1940’s and even 50’s, there is evidence that a number of them in the government were missed, often by individual communists being covered up by liberals or communist dupes; others by higher ranking communists within the goverment hierarchy.
Whitaker Chambers ( who I met), Elizabeth Bentley, and Soviet defectors Krivitsky, Gourenzko, and the Venona papers all showed this to those who would listen and read.
Obama might have some plans for interning “conservative” Americans “clinging to their guns and bibles”, but if we turn it around, we will need camps to contain the Jihadists and their supporters here in America, not to mention the estimated 7-10,000 Communists and marxists who are working everyday to bring down our constitutional government, one way or another.
The Cold War never ended, only went into its’ next phase, while a new war of Islamic extremism began against US in the 1970s’ and 80’s, but was not recognized as such until Bin Laden and Al Qaeda were identified and targetted.
My position is, if you are going to intern someone, make sure it is the “enemy” of America, not the “defenders”.
Unfortunately for us, Comrade Obama and his whitey-hating Attorney General have targeted the “defenders”, not the “enemies” (some of whom worked for them as White House advisors or DOJ attorneys).
Perhaps Justice Scalia wasn’t just whistling in the wind, because he knows “which way the wind is blowing”.