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To: ColdOne

People don’t know history. The internment of the Japanese-Americans was wrong and even J. Edgar Hoover opposed it. He felt that the FBI had control over the small number of pro-Emperor devotees in the US (and basically did).

The government also rounded up over 5,000 German agents, citizens and non-citizen residents in both the US and from throughout Latin America where Germany had established many spy/sabotage operations, business fronts, and “friendship” societies”.

The “intelligence” on most of them was pretty accurate though a few were probably just non-involved citizens of German descent.

Over 1,000 Italians of various immigration statuses were also rounded up, mainly in the U.S. including Italians on Italian ships in port when war was declared against the Axis.

NOW, what most of you don’t know is that there was a very significant number of German (and a few Italian)/Americans who were extremely pro-Germany, pro-Hitler and pro-Nazi in the U.S.

FBI, ONI (Office of Naval Intelligence), industrial security agents, and local/state police intelligence units not only had lists of known “Bundists” and alien Germans, but also had thousands, if not tens of thousands of investigations of “suspect” people in the war industries.

When reading the govt reports on these “suspects”, it became very clear that they were thoroughly investigated for loyalty to the US and that the majority of them were cleared of any disloyalty, despite statements/suspicions against them.

However, a significant number (I don’t really know it, but estimate that it would number around 1,000 or more), were actually working against the U.S., often by sabotaging machinery and goods in the war industries. Others burned railroad bridges, set fire to warehouses, supplies, etc.

Some were arrested as enemy agents; others were reassigned in their jobs or banned from working in war industries.

This is an area of history that has not been thoroughly explored by historians. The sheer amount of reports that one would have to look at is in the thousands to tens of thousands of pages, or more, depending on what you are reading. Some ONI reports on German Agents in Latin America range up to 50-75 pages plus photos, exhibits etc.

And I’m not even mentioning the investigation of American Communists in both labor unions and spy rings in American
industry. Between 1933-41+, communists were deliberately behind many labor strikes (some justified, many not), which hurt the war effort.

A lot of old names show up in the Military Intelligence files, and some of these red leaders were later to show up in the leadership of the Hanoi Lobby and the Anti-Defense Lobby movements. Their only loyalty was to the Soviet Union and Stalin.

The number of documents concerning labor problems in MI files must be over 5,000 pages or more based on the few hundred that I have been able to review so far.

Since Russia was our “ally” during WW2, American Communists were handled differently than the Germans and Italians living here or in Latin America.

Unlike the Japanese-Americans, these people were a real threat to the survival of the United States, a story that has not been told honestly or fully by most historians (there are a few exceptions in the organization Historians of American Communism, HOAC).

As for unknown Soviet spy rings in the US during the 1940’s and even 50’s, there is evidence that a number of them in the government were missed, often by individual communists being covered up by liberals or communist dupes; others by higher ranking communists within the goverment hierarchy.

Whitaker Chambers ( who I met), Elizabeth Bentley, and Soviet defectors Krivitsky, Gourenzko, and the Venona papers all showed this to those who would listen and read.

Obama might have some plans for interning “conservative” Americans “clinging to their guns and bibles”, but if we turn it around, we will need camps to contain the Jihadists and their supporters here in America, not to mention the estimated 7-10,000 Communists and marxists who are working everyday to bring down our constitutional government, one way or another.

The Cold War never ended, only went into its’ next phase, while a new war of Islamic extremism began against US in the 1970s’ and 80’s, but was not recognized as such until Bin Laden and Al Qaeda were identified and targetted.

My position is, if you are going to intern someone, make sure it is the “enemy” of America, not the “defenders”.

Unfortunately for us, Comrade Obama and his whitey-hating Attorney General have targeted the “defenders”, not the “enemies” (some of whom worked for them as White House advisors or DOJ attorneys).

Perhaps Justice Scalia wasn’t just whistling in the wind, because he knows “which way the wind is blowing”.


202 posted on 02/06/2014 12:37:02 AM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Fascinating. So, just because my brain isn’t sharp, which way do you perceive Scalia thinks the wind is blowing?

(IMHO I think the wind has changed and the leftistpukes are going to be playing defense soon.)


204 posted on 02/06/2014 1:20:44 AM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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