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To: Norm Lenhart
I already did. Repeatedly. A human fetus will only become a fully grown human. Killing humans via abortion is murder. In what other case is intentionally killing an innocent human not murder? That is where lines and civilization vs liberalism come in.

OK. So you would advocate prosecuting women who have abortions for first degree murder, and putting them in prison?

255 posted on 02/04/2014 6:34:19 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625

If that penalty for abortion ever becomes American law, absolutely. I have no more moral problem jailing a female child killer than I do a male pedophile.

Sound harsh? Tell me what’s worse. My position or a dead baby.


256 posted on 02/04/2014 6:39:47 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: PapaBear3625

I’ll be honest and say I’m not ready to execute a woman for using the morning after pill (as though it’s the same as a first degree murder). I don’t think it’s morally right to interfere once conception has occurred, but I’m not ready to go that far. Nor am I ready to do as some have and start shooting abortion doctors. That’s morally evil in my opinion, but one could reasonably make the argument that it’s OK to kill to prevent a murder.

I don’t want ANY abortions to occur unless the life of the mother is in imminent danger. Some tell me that never occurs. Other have said a pregnancy can indeed risk the life of the mother. I’m not a medical doctor. I don’t know. If the latter is true, however, that would be the only moral reason I can think of for terminating a pregnancy. That includes in cases of rape and incest, because the unborn child is not guilty and does not threaten the life of the mom.

I don’t consider myself pro-abortion simply because I’m not willing to go to such extremes as executing women who have abortions or killing abortion doctors (to defend the unborn). I don’t think I could vote for a law that equated abortion from conception on as first degree murder, but we aren’t anywhere close to making decisions like that in this country.

Would I definitely tell a woman that she should never have an abortion because it’s a sin? Definitely yes.

Would I vote to imprison abortion doctors who violate existing law, like ones who performed partial birth abortions? Certainly.

Would I vote to severely limit abortion in nearly all cases, excluding rape and incest? Yes.

Let’s move the laws of this country much closer to making abortion very, very rare, and then we can contemplate the legal/moral ramifications of going further. Regardless of what’s done legally, abortion will always be morally wrong of course, but we don’t enact the same punishment for every crime or make every immoral act illegal.


271 posted on 02/04/2014 9:18:07 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Sodomy and abortion: the only constitutional rights cherished by Democrats.)
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