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To: Jacquerie

Whom do you trust, in our current crop of power-grabbers, to attend and write an Article V Constitution? I don’t trust any of them. States will send their worst party bottom-feeders as delegates, I guarantee it. The party hacks will have a field day.

Meanwhile, did you know George Soros is also pushing for an Article V?

I don’t like the idea of an Article V in this environment. I am confident there will be many good folks along to gently explain to me why I’m wrong, and I’m willing to listen.


3 posted on 02/02/2014 10:17:51 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Cyber Liberty
Do you disagree with what must be done, and/or heavily discount the probability of achieving it?

I didn't know Soros was on the side of our Framers. Strange bedfellows indeed.

6 posted on 02/02/2014 10:21:06 AM PST by Jacquerie
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To: Cyber Liberty
I don’t like the idea of an Article V in this environment. I am confident there will be many good folks along to gently explain to me why I’m wrong, and I’m willing to listen.

My problem with it is that even it was a sound conservative out come it would be adhered to anymore than the constitution we already have.

I do support the idea of states banding together to tell the feds to stuff it.

11 posted on 02/02/2014 10:27:57 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Well, I don’t know about an Article V convention pros and cons. Like you, I imagine others think they do. The Marxists/Socialist/Democrats will be there (Convention) though so who can guarantee they won’t score some points? And, what points would they score? Bottom line, it would be the Left vs the Right with The Left having the media on their side. Not good odds for the right.

So, clearly, an Article V conventions success or failure depends entirely on who or what is controlling it? Can Conservatives control it? I doubt it because the MSM (Marxist Socialist Media) will be full bore behind their fellow Marxist Socialist Democrats.

So, if you take away an Article V Convention, HOW THE HELL DO YOU FIX THIS F’d UP COUNTRY?

To a certainty, no collection of 536 humanoids in Washington, either in 2014, 2017, 2020 or 2030 will. We know now that these people get elected and travel to Washington and sooner rather than later become corrupted.

So, what’s the fix? I suggest that in places like California, where there is a concentration of Liberals, that they be allowed socially to do whatever the hell they want to do as long as they pay for it! The same would go for such sister states, just to name some, as Massachusetts, Connectticut, Maine, Oregon, Washington and so on.

The ONLY “Union” per se then would be Defense and Foreign Policy. If Maine wants to let boys in the girls bathroom but Texas beats the boys ass with a paddle, so be it! If California only wanted the criminals to have guns, so be it. Not my business here in Texas.

Finally, big media must be broken up, Scotus terms should not be life, Scotus mental faculties physicals should be required past 60, term limits put in place, the National Legislature should adhere to the Texas model, the Capital should be moved to Dallas/Ft Worth because it is the middle of the country and very conservative so we can keep an eye on them, and, most of all, contributions limited to individuals and $1,000 max. Campaign air time to be allocated amongst all candidates and be Free. Double Voter ID, citizenship, and employment required to vote.

Lobbyists should be totally outlawed.

The foregoing would get us headed in the right direction but I could write a book on details and other “fixes”

One thing is for certain and that is, like a ten year old truck with a million miles on it, the owner (USA) is going to have to either rebuild it or get rid of it.


23 posted on 02/02/2014 11:04:19 AM PST by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: Cyber Liberty
to attend and write an Article V Constitution?

Maybe you can first explain to me what "an Article V Constitution" is?

-PJ

39 posted on 02/02/2014 1:45:20 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Cyber Liberty; Jacquerie

Just because someone else wants an article V convention, it doesn’t mean they want it for the same reason I do. A heinous, snake-in-the-grass dirtbag like Soros may want one to push all the wrong reasons, and Sarah Palin might want one for all the right reasons, but it doesn’t mean they share any kind of goal.

That said, I agree with you that the environment is a bad one for it.

But if I say that, it begs the question: When is a good time for it?


55 posted on 02/02/2014 7:26:57 PM PST by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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