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To: dragnet2

If the details in the article are correct I gotta go with the cops on this one. Someone points a gun at me I have to assume they’re going to shoot with a very good chance at killing me. No way I’m going to just stand there if I were a cop.


50 posted on 01/30/2014 12:16:42 PM PST by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: count-your-change

I prefer to give the benefit of the doubt to the HOMEOWNER. It would have been nice if the cops had given him the same courtesy.


52 posted on 01/30/2014 12:24:29 PM PST by TalonDJ
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To: count-your-change

See 23.

No sale.


64 posted on 01/30/2014 1:32:24 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: count-your-change
If the details in the article are correct I gotta go with the cops on this one. Someone points a gun at me I have to assume they’re going to shoot with a very good chance at killing me. No way I’m going to just stand there if I were a cop.

You've been on Free Republic for nearly six years, and you don't understand the Fourth Amendment?

OK, here's your homework assignment:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

Pay special attention to "curtilage"...

65 posted on 01/30/2014 1:54:03 PM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: count-your-change
If the details in the article are correct I gotta go with the cops on this one.

>>>>>According to the cops: The two officers encountered an armed Waller near the corner of his home, told them they were police and to drop his gun. Waller didn't drop his gun and instead raised it at Hoeppner who proceeded to fatally shoot the senior citizen seven times.<<<<<<

This was not what witnesses said, but what the cops told the Grand Jury.

He raised his gun at the cops?

Tell me, why would a law abiding citizen do that if he saw uniformed cops who immediatly yell out, "Police drop your weapon"

What would be his motive to then point a weapon at the cops?

Don't make much sense to me unless they said "police, drop it", while at the exact same time emptied on him.

Or did they say anything first? Are there witnesses to support this?

88 posted on 01/30/2014 7:31:46 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: count-your-change

So if someone points a gun at you they then have right to kill you if you resist?


106 posted on 01/31/2014 6:59:55 AM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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To: count-your-change
I will agree with you on principle, but the fact that it was the officers negligence of going to the wrong address that caused the killing to occur should be taken into consideration.
128 posted on 02/01/2014 10:00:55 AM PST by mware
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To: count-your-change
If the details in the article are correct I gotta go with the cops on this one. Someone points a gun at me I have to assume they’re going to shoot with a very good chance at killing me. No way I’m going to just stand there if I were a cop.

Here's an idea, Braveheart, go into your neighbor's yard in the middle of the night, and if he pulls a gun on you, shoot him.

134 posted on 09/20/2014 12:26:16 PM PDT by Fido969 (What's sad is most)
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