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Texas -Cop shoots 72-year-old dead in his home (Wrong address, no charges)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news ^ | 1/30/2014 | Ashley Collman

Posted on 01/30/2014 10:55:13 AM PST by dragnet2

Actual headline below: Would not fit in title header

Rookie cop who shot 72-year-old dead in his home while investigating burglary at the WRONG address will not be charged

A family devastated: Waller was shot by Fort Worth police as they searched his home for burglars in the dark using only flashlights

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2548819/Rookie-cop-NOT-charged-killing-72-year-old-accidental-search-home.html

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cops; crime; donutwatch; fortworth; policeshooting; standingarmy; texas; wronghouse
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To: bamahead

extreme deprivation of liberty PING


61 posted on 01/30/2014 1:16:50 PM PST by TheConservativeParty
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Several mistakes on both sides. The most important is that, when you are in defense, the advantage is usually yours. But if you leave your defensive position and “go hunting”, you are evenly matched.

He was shot to death and found inside his OWN garage.

62 posted on 01/30/2014 1:25:15 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Karl Spooner

Most interesting links....thanks.


63 posted on 01/30/2014 1:29:41 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: count-your-change

See 23.

No sale.


64 posted on 01/30/2014 1:32:24 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: count-your-change
If the details in the article are correct I gotta go with the cops on this one. Someone points a gun at me I have to assume they’re going to shoot with a very good chance at killing me. No way I’m going to just stand there if I were a cop.

You've been on Free Republic for nearly six years, and you don't understand the Fourth Amendment?

OK, here's your homework assignment:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

Pay special attention to "curtilage"...

65 posted on 01/30/2014 1:54:03 PM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: jda

“Can’t say for sure regarding the deceased, but if I wasn’t convinced the people breaking into my house for no reason were police, I might raise my gun.”

So in effect you are dead if you do ( and it’s really is the cops). and dead if you don’t (when they are criminals who tell you they are cops). It is long past time when we need the level of “law enforcement” that’s been thrust upon us. Now every jerkwater hamlet wants to get a “free MRAP” to “roll up in.” Just ask that a$$hole chief of police from some podunk town in Florida.


66 posted on 01/30/2014 2:09:06 PM PST by vette6387
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To: count-your-change

“That’s why I’m not a cop. If I were anyone points a gun at me I assume they’re going to shoot me and they get no courtesy. Either quit pointing it at me or I start shooting to keep from being shot.”

Works both ways dude.


67 posted on 01/30/2014 2:38:58 PM PST by LaRueLaDue
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To: Sopater

“[...] To defend your home from the police or the state could prove fatal with no consequences for the murderers.”

Sounds like some relatives or good friends need to create some consequences for the murderers. The rule of the three “S”s comes to mind.


68 posted on 01/30/2014 2:44:01 PM PST by LaRueLaDue
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To: LaRueLaDue

Yes, it does work both ways so if anyone points a gun they better realize what the consequences can be and be prepared to accept that.

Few acts so simple can have such grave consequences. A merely dangerous situation can suddenly become a kill or be killed situation.

And ...I’m not a dude.


69 posted on 01/30/2014 3:11:32 PM PST by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: kiryandil

The next time you have someone pointing a gun at you in the dark and you don’t know whether you are going to die at that moment or not you be sure to take up the meaning and application of “curtilage” with them. You do that.


70 posted on 01/30/2014 3:23:20 PM PST by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: kiryandil

The next time you have someone pointing a gun at you in the dark and you don’t know whether you are going to die at that moment or not you be sure to take up the meaning and application of “curtilage” with them. You do that.


71 posted on 01/30/2014 3:23:21 PM PST by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: dragnet2

Maybe you have more information than everyone else on this incident? No? I didn’t think so.


72 posted on 01/30/2014 3:30:49 PM PST by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: dragnet2
How dare this citizen be armed in his own home!!!

So long as the police officially say the police did nothing wrong, and the police chief says the officers "were following protocol," then everything is A-OH-KAY.

/s

Perhaps if local government "officials" and prosecutors started swinging from lampposts, the folks that are supposed to oversee the police and prosecute crimes would be more inclined to inquiry how police departments conduct themselves and why police shoot dogs and citizens.

Perhaps.

73 posted on 01/30/2014 3:43:52 PM PST by Repeat Offender (Why are cops ROE more lenient against us, here in the US, than U.S. military's ROE's in a war zone?)
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To: count-your-change; dragnet2; yefragetuwrabrumuy; Karl Spooner
The next time you have someone pointing a gun at you in the dark and you don’t know whether you are going to die at that moment or not you be sure to take up the meaning and application of “curtilage” with them. You do that.

"Former Fort Worth city councilwoman Becky Haskin lives in the neighborhood and told NBC 5 that shortly after 1 a.m. she heard five gunshots. She said she immediately went to the scene, saw officers looking for bullet casings and learned that it was her neighbor, identified by the Tarrant County medical examiner as 72-year-old Jerry Waller, who had been shot and killed."

Odd. What was so important about the spent brass? What about the guy they shot seven times?

He wasn't as important?

I think you might want to ask a NEW question, count-your-change...

74 posted on 01/30/2014 4:05:26 PM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: dragnet2

Where did everyone go? I expected to hear the neighborhood filled with the sound of gunfire as they fought off murderous hoards of police.


75 posted on 01/30/2014 4:09:01 PM PST by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: Repeat Offender
I think this video shows the response time from their commands until they open fire. Pretty much what happened to that 13 year old from California a short time ago I bet

Michigan police shoot Battle Creek teen Nicholas King holding toy gun

76 posted on 01/30/2014 4:09:17 PM PST by Karl Spooner
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To: Repeat Offender
I think this video shows the response time from their commands until they open fire. Pretty much what happened to that 13 year old from California a short time ago I bet

Michigan police shoot Battle Creek teen Nicholas King holding toy gun

77 posted on 01/30/2014 4:13:10 PM PST by Karl Spooner
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To: kiryandil

Not being there or being part of the incident, just like you, I can only guess that gathering the spent brass was part of the investigation into the shooting.

Never met anyone pointing a weapon at you in the dark like these cops have, have you?


78 posted on 01/30/2014 4:36:50 PM PST by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: dragnet2

Remember when we all used to think that if you didn’t do anything wrong you had nothing to worry about?


79 posted on 01/30/2014 5:03:30 PM PST by BfloGuy ( Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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To: dragnet2
Not enough light to keep the Cops from shooting.
80 posted on 01/30/2014 5:03:53 PM PST by Karl Spooner
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