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Paul Ryan’s Super Clever Idea for Illegal Immigrants
redstate.com ^ | 1/30/14 | Daniel Horowitz

Posted on 01/30/2014 8:37:09 AM PST by cotton1706

Now that House Republicans have passed a trillion dollar omnibus and trillion dollar farm bill, they are prepared to tackle the most pressing issue of our time – granting benefits to illegal immigrants.

The key to understanding the politics of illegal immigration is that this is not just about amnesty (legalization and/or citizenship). It’s not just that these people are calling for amnesty because of logistics, yet desire an end to illegal immigration in the future. If that were the case they would simply implement the enforcement measures that have been passed on numerous occasions (eight times, in the case of Visa exit-entry), and address those already here from a position of strength – knowing that this won’t happen again.

What they really desire is open borders. That is why they always propose the legalization before implementation of enforcement measures and cutting off of magnets and benefits. They know the latter will never come to fruition while the former will occur immediately. They want to continue the perennial cycle of open borders and amnesty.

However, they understand that the public (and certainly their base) is not buying it. So Paul Ryan has thought of a clever shiny object to use for packaging of this grand scheme. A probationary status!

Ryan said the principles would outline a bill that would allow immigrants living in the country illegally to “come out of the shadows” to receive a probationary work permit.

To get out of the probationary status and receive a regular work permit, triggers for border security and interior enforcement would have to be met and independently verified.

(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; elections; ryan
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To: cotton1706

“Dual Status” agreements always eventually fail, which is exactly what people pushing for “change” want.

To them a dual status agreement is just a temporary stop on the way to full status for all - a way to get the opposition to compromise their basic principles.

Once a dual status agreement is in effect, those pushing for change start crying about the lack of fairness and the treatment of some as second class citizens.

It happens in business, government and organizations of every type.


21 posted on 01/30/2014 9:15:40 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Sooner or later everyone sits down to a banquet of consequences." - Robert Louis Stevenson)
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To: cotton1706

Paul Ryan is a wolf in sheep’s clothing.


22 posted on 01/30/2014 9:23:23 AM PST by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: Graewoulf; cotton1706
Do you have a name for this Obamacrat?

I'll help out here. I found this new thing called GOOGLE SEARCH. All you have to do is get a computer, and hook it up to a thing called the INTERNET, and then go to GOOGLE.COM. Then type in "John Boehner's new aide."

BOOM... it comes up with... Rebecca Tallent.

23 posted on 01/30/2014 9:27:16 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (I forgot what my tagline was supposed to say)
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To: chiefqc
Included within the bill are a number of intervertent mistake(s)..

Did you mean 'inadvertent'?

24 posted on 01/30/2014 9:29:55 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ("The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it." - George Orwell)
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To: FReepers; Patriots; FRiends



PAUL RYAN is both an IDIOT and a TRAITOR!

PLEASE Support Free Republic today!

25 posted on 01/30/2014 9:30:35 AM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: UCANSEE2

Thanks, then ICANSEE2.


26 posted on 01/30/2014 9:31:26 AM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: cotton1706
I see Ryan as the guy who thinks he's smarter than anyone else in the room.

A typical technocrat with no understanding of the "national question."

27 posted on 01/30/2014 9:33:23 AM PST by turducken
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To: LucianOfSamasota

We don’t have an illegal immigration problem, we have an illegal labor problem. Until we cut off their ability to get a job they will keep coming.


28 posted on 01/30/2014 9:38:36 AM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Oh yes, my mistake not the best speller in the world.

The bottom line is still the same.

Thanks


29 posted on 01/30/2014 9:41:17 AM PST by chiefqc
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To: cotton1706
Any republican who endorses anything short of enthusiastic enforcement of current immigration laws should automatically go on the sh*t list.

Ryan is already near the top.

30 posted on 01/30/2014 9:44:41 AM PST by skeeter
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To: cotton1706

ahh, the GOP central planning mastermind, strikes again. i hope wisconsin is taking notice.


31 posted on 01/30/2014 9:46:36 AM PST by dadfly
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To: JPG

32 posted on 01/30/2014 9:47:03 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: HamiltonJay
The NWO elites must have ordered the repub leadership to allow the alien saturation of the US thus causing the repub party to self destruct. End goal; hasten the people's acceptance of a North American Union.

33 posted on 01/30/2014 9:53:30 AM PST by drypowder
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To: cotton1706; Don Corleone; Graewoulf; Blood of Tyrants; oldbrowser; chiefqc; Georgia Girl 2; ...
Its disturbing when you get reminded yet again that your Repub politicians aren’t representing you, nor are they serving their country. I expect Dems to betray all that is holy, they’re Dems. I get disturbed when I see the GOP’s best and brightest openly going over to the dark side.

The mask is slipping; it's time to realize that the GOP is more despicable than the Democrat party — at least the Democrats are honest about what they want and work toward their goals. The GOP, on the other hand, is all talk (and brand-name/reputation) and nothing on action; just look at what they've [not] done on: fiscal responsibility, government accountability, firearm laws [repealing gun-control], constitutionalism [look at the WoD, the NDAA, and the NSA], and abortion [throwing for Romney, even as they add no exceptions to the plank].

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34 posted on 01/30/2014 10:06:41 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Republicans don’t have the stones to do what needs to be done to get the illegals to self deport. Its just easier to give them amnesty and move on. Thats what they want to do and if we don’t stop them they will.


35 posted on 01/30/2014 10:09:41 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

No they don’t. And it’s my take they will push through amnesty for the Left. When they do 25 to 40 million illegals will pour out of the woodwork to make it official.

With that will come a stream of government support the likes of which has seldom been seen before.


36 posted on 01/30/2014 10:12:48 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Amnesty is job NONE! It isn't even the leading issue with Hipanics.)
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To: cotton1706

Do those things and illegal aliens will deport themselves and pay for the trip.

37 posted on 01/30/2014 10:20:59 AM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: cotton1706
What they really desire is open borders.

This is a top priority of the NWO Globalist Agenda. It supersedes all other considerations, including the political viability to the Republican Party.

If it takes destroying the Republican Party to get open borders, then so be it. It would be like sacrificing a bishop to achieve checkmate. And that's what open borders would be to American sovereignty.

38 posted on 01/30/2014 10:27:09 AM PST by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Republicans don’t have the stones to do what needs to be done to get the illegals to self deport.

IOWs enforce the law. Republicans clearly don't have any more respect for the rule of law than DemRats do. The rule of law is dead and this is a banana republic. Have an exit plan!

39 posted on 01/30/2014 10:30:02 AM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: TigersEye

Yeh no argument. We have an exit plan and are currently executing it. This country has gone way past the ballot box.


40 posted on 01/30/2014 10:34:42 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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