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To: Windflier
You don't speak for the rest of patriotic America, who can and will take back their country, as long as they stay resolute in their minds.

I see no fruits to support the rhetoric as yet.

It's a lot tougher to do, with harbingers of doom like yourself

God's people did not like Jeremiah and those who were warning them to repent either. In fact, the people they were trying to save from Judgment killed them for the words of truth those people refused to hear.

In the 1760's this people were willing to hear the truth that they suffered tyranny because of their sins and they repented of themselves and thus were forged through suffering to be an instrument to retain liberty from tyrants.

I see nothing of the sort in this culture. Only the castigation of those trying to wake up a spiritually lukewarm people.

But you first have to believe in yourself and in the people.

I believe in God and His Righteousness, not in people. If I judge the fruits in just the latest elections, I have to conclude that the majority WANT what we are witnessing and about to suffer.

You believe others cannot stand, because you yourself cannot.

You have no concept of what I've been through - what I've done, endured or have been involved in doing. I was standing long before anyone else was, warning where we would end up if the churches and this people did not do as I explained earlier.

You won't convince me to stand down before the battle is even engaged, nor will you convince the majority of other patriots who read here every day. We love our country, and intend to do whatever it takes to preserve it, despite your best efforts to convince us to surrender.

I never said or suggested surrender. I'm exclaiming where this path we are on nationally is going to go based on history; I'm exclaiming the truth of where it is going to end up IF we do not repent, change and prepare to fight in the long war ahead.

There are myriad and plenty of rah-rah inspirational advocates and speakers out there already. I prefer to speak the truth, hard as it is to hear and prepare a people to endure what is coming so they can hold on through misery and suffering with their faith intact.

If that's too doom and gloom for you - how in the world do you think any of you are going to make it through what will be required to take back this country if God allows us to do so if you think the people cannot handle hearing what you deem to be doom and gloom and surrender?

The answer is you won't. Not with either your faith or principles intact.

51 posted on 01/25/2014 8:42:21 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: INVAR
There are myriad and plenty of rah-rah inspirational advocates and speakers out there already. I prefer to speak the truth, hard as it is to hear and prepare a people to endure what is coming so they can hold on through misery and suffering with their faith intact.

Invar, you're a doomer. Plain and simple.

While there's every reason to stand resolute against the insanity and ugliness that besets us, and while our people are still numerous enough and fired up enough to do something about it, you sit there cautioning others to prepare for an age of darkness that needn't come, if our people just maintain the will to fight back - and do so.

Well they're going to lose the will to fight if they're listening to you and other doomers. You have the power of choice to change your message. Whether you'll do so or not is entirely up to you, but I predict you'll continue advising everyone to prepare themselves for the gulags and firing squads.

53 posted on 01/25/2014 8:59:59 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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