[Windflier]

I really do have SO many other things to do that I am not going to waste my time on "the awful state California's in" because --

1. I don't believe that we are in such an "awful state";
2. there's not a darn thing I can do about it

Just as I thought. You're a la-la-land country clubber who's too busy living the glitz life to take two minutes to get up to speed on what's happening in your own back yard.

I have to ask -- why are you a member of this forum, if you're not even slightly interested in the socio-political dynamics that affect your very existence? I mean, that is what this group is about.

Perhaps you should have a chat with another Freeper who lives in your state. Guy by the name of Jim Robinson who posts here from time to time. He's a long time resident, and knows a thing or two about matters that affect California which might be of interest to you.

Me? I'm just some guy who lived there for half a century. What do I know?

[cloudmountain]

WINDflier-- perfect call sign for you.

[Osage Orange]

Ummm...I grew up in SoCal. Spent over 38 years there.

I apparently don't know anything either....