You can’t control any of that. Once the hoodoo starts, everything is out the window. You people are dreaming that honest people are in charge here.
How come those who wanted to stay a part of England in 1776 didn't prevent the Continental Congress of 1776 from declaring independence? Was it that, even though they disagreed they were still fundamentally honest people?
At the Constitutional Convention of 1787, Wikipedia says of the delegates:
Are you saying that it is impossible today to convene a body of fundamentally honest people of similar stature as before? I'm not talking about people who agree on all issues, but people who agree to abide by a governing principle of debate and deliberation.
The states had originally appointed 70 representatives to the Convention, but a number of the appointees did not accept or could not attend, leaving 55 delegates who would ultimately craft the Constitution.Almost all of the 55 delegates had taken part in the Revolution, with at least 29 having served in the Continental forces, most in positions of command. All but two or three had served in colonial or state government during their careers. The vast majority (about 75%) of the delegates were or had been members of the Confederation Congress, and many had been members of the Continental Congress during the Revolution. Several had been state governors. Just two delegates, Roger Sherman and Robert Morris, would be signatories to all three of the nations founding documents, the Declaration of Independence, the Articles of Confederation, and the Constitution.
More than half of the delegates had trained as lawyers (several had even been judges), although only about a quarter had practiced law as their principal means of business. There were also merchants, manufacturers, shippers, land speculators, bankers or financiers, two or three physicians, a minister, and several small farmers. Of the 25 who owned slaves, 16 depended on slave labor to run the plantations or other businesses that formed the mainstay of their income. Most of the delegates were landowners with substantial holdings, and most, with the possible exception of Roger Sherman and William Few, were very comfortably wealthy. George Washington and Gouverneur Morris were among the wealthiest men in the entire country.
Are you saying that America has turned the corner, and no such people can be found anymore to try to take back their country?
-PJ