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Gov. Rick Perry for decriminalization of pot
San Antonio Express News ^
| 01/23/2014
| Kolten Parker
Posted on 01/23/2014 12:38:11 PM PST by thetallguy24
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To: fr_freak
But then, I actually believe in the US Constitution.
I'll have some of what you've been smokin'...
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posted on
01/23/2014 3:28:15 PM PST
by
rottndog
('Live Free Or Die' Ain't just words on a bumber sticker...or a tagline.)
To: thetallguy24
Equating marijuana with dangerous substances like heroin and meth has cost the GOP and law enforcement mightily in terms of credibility. Continuing the war on stoners is not defensible politically, and the moral and economic arithmetic have gotten progressively messier since the 80s.
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posted on
01/23/2014 3:32:18 PM PST
by
CowboyJay
(Cruz'-ing in 2016!)
To: DannyTN
I understand that. We live with it.
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posted on
01/23/2014 3:42:13 PM PST
by
billhilly
(Has Pelosi read it yet?)
To: fr_freak
Yes, but alcohol has fairly short-term effects. It takes a seriously long time of heavy use to become addicted.
And if alcohol, a legal intoxicant with a long cultural history, is bad, why add another intoxicant - a drug with proven permanent bad side effects and no cultural history outside of the ME and certain parts of Asia, where it has been credited with their lethargy - to the list?
People in the US think that anything that is legal is good. Marijuana is not good, and furthermore, it’s been tacitly legalized with far fewer controls than alcohol or any other intoxicant.
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posted on
01/23/2014 3:54:49 PM PST
by
livius
To: thetallguy24
Has anyone estimated how many prison cells would be open if they legalized pot? That’s really the only benefit I see from this.
To: SeminoleCounty
You just want to give them drugs...right?No, I don't want to give them anything. That's my point.
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posted on
01/23/2014 4:00:30 PM PST
by
dead
(I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
To: RightOnTheBorder
Quite agree, but it does show how far the country has shifted when a Republican governor of Texas throws pot prohibitionists under the bus. (bumpity-bump bumpity-bump!)
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posted on
01/23/2014 4:07:34 PM PST
by
Ken H
(What happens on the internet, stays on the internet.)
To: rottndog
Really? Show me where, in the US Constitution, the federal government is given the power to regulate the individual use of ANYTHING, or growing ANYTHING for your personal use. Hopefully, that clears it up for you. For a more advanced discussion, you can tell me where in the US Constitution the federal government is given the authority to freeze and seize assets without trial and conduct 3am no-knock raids.
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posted on
01/25/2014 9:53:00 AM PST
by
fr_freak
To: livius
Yes, but alcohol has fairly short-term effects. It takes a seriously long time of heavy use to become addicted.
So you're a doctor/medical researcher, are you? You've got hard facts to back up that assertion?
And if alcohol, a legal intoxicant with a long cultural history, is bad, why add another intoxicant - a drug with proven permanent bad side effects and no cultural history outside of the ME and certain parts of Asia, where it has been credited with their lethargy - to the list?
You've gone off onto the wrong path of thinking that so many have gone down. And, quite frankly, I think it is the path that the government wants you to go down. So here it is: IT DOESN'T MATTER whether marijuana is harmful or not. Of course it is, as is alcohol, as is tobacco, as are foods with high fructose corn syrup, as are Twinkies. The point of government is not to make illegal every risky choice that citizens might make - it is to safeguard the liberty and property of its citizens. Justifying the federal government's shredding of the US Constitution (which are its own constraints) by saying that marijuana may have negative effects is madness. We can argue all day whther alcohol or marijuana is worse for you (I believe alcohol is) but IT DOESN'T MATTER when it comes to whether the government's proper place is to regulate personal usage of it.
The fedgov and local govs have been stomping on the rights of citizens and pissing on their own legal restraints for decades now, and justifying it by saying that marijuana and (some) other drugs are bad. Well, you know what else is bad? Cops invading your home in the middle of the night, shooting your dog, tasering your grandma and seizing your assets, all without trial or presenting a warrant. That is what we have come to. And that doesn't even take into account the fact that the black market for drugs has made violent cartels rich er than some countries.
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posted on
01/25/2014 10:05:11 AM PST
by
fr_freak
To: fr_freak
Please, read up on it before you make idiotic remarks. But you’re probably too busy toking up.
Libertarians want one thing only from the government: free pot.
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posted on
01/25/2014 12:21:07 PM PST
by
livius
To: livius
Yeah, that’s about the level of thought I knew I’d get from you. Go lick some boots. You know exactly jacksh**.
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posted on
01/25/2014 12:28:37 PM PST
by
fr_freak
To: thetallguy24; SheLion; Eric Blair 2084; -YYZ-; 31R1O; 383rr; AFreeBird; AGreatPer; Alamo-Girl; ...
Yes, some dudes with tattooed foreheads paid him off.
Not likely, of course. I’m sure those literal cutthroats would want it to remain fully illegal so they could continue to get top dollar.
Nanny State PING!
To: Svartalfiar; Eric Blair 2084
But I always find it curious, liberals generally hate tobacco but love marijuana, whereas we're generally the opposite. Why is that?As Eric Blair 2084 told me on another thread, liberals may prefer a stoned population. Nicotine, on the other hand, increases focus, making it more difficult for the elites to get their shenanigans by the people. This theory would help explain the budding passion for limiting e-cigarettes as well.
To: SeminoleCounty
Fortunately, Texans were able to stop the latter two things from happening.
Perry is obviously a Gringo de Mexico on illegal immigration, and therefore, unfit for the Presidency. I do agree with decriminalization, however. The jail cells are full of people who’s worst offense was smoking a doobie or toting a baggie of weed.
To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
To: thetallguy24
Perry is exactly where I am on pot. And I am a conservative, not a libertarian.
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posted on
01/25/2014 8:12:51 PM PST
by
jwalsh07
To: thetallguy24
Rick Perry is a moron IMO
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posted on
01/25/2014 8:14:21 PM PST
by
GeronL
(Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
To: Responsibility2nd
I wouldn’t vote for a “drug warrior” any more than I would vote for someone warring against the 2nd amendment. You authoritarian goons and lovers of big government drug enforcement are about to get snuffed out, anyway. It’s happening in state after state. Maybe you better start thinking about some other way you can keep your greasy paws in other people’s business, because you’re obviously losing your grip on this issue - thank God.
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