Posted on 01/18/2014 3:55:42 AM PST by Libloather
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Firing squads have all but disappeared from the U.S. While Oklahoma law provides for them if lethal injection is ever ruled unconstitutional, only Utah actually continues to use them, and then only for inmates convicted before 2004 as it seeks to phase them out. But the shortage of pentobarbitol has some lawmakers reconsidering.
State Sen. Bruce Burns filed a similar bill (.pdf) Monday in Wyoming, saying the state would have to do something soon before it runs out of approved drugs for lethal injections.
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Hurricane Carter was "freed from death row" and is as guilty as hell. As Bill Ayers described himself, "Guilty as Hell and free as a bird. What a country!" "Freed from death row" is hardly the same as innocent. I doubt if even one percent of the people on that list are actually innocent in any meaningful sense, other than legalistically.
As Margret Thatcher (and I am sure others) have observed, when the government becomes involved in things it should not do, it does them poorly, and the incompetence spills over to larger things it should be doing. Maintenance of the peace is the prime charge of government, protecting the weak from predators, and punishing wrong doers. The most effective way of maintaining the peace is to insure that those that breach it are quickly and severely punished.
As a society, we have lost the stomach to punish evil. Prisons do not deter, the death penalty, as administered is a bad joke.
Early in our country’s history, when the death penalty was applicable, the rules of evidence were more severe. Following the Old Testament’s Hebrew tradition, a person could only be put to death for murder if there were two witnesses. The Hebrew tradition also mandated an equal punishment for any person found guilty of bearing false witness in such an accusation.
While many think this is too flippant, it should be noted that with those rigorous rules of evidence, those charged with murder had an 80% acquittal rate. Nevertheless, capital punishment did provide incentive to not commit murder and false witness.
It’s the same with the guillotine. The blade comes down another. Slices through the neck faster than the body can register pain.
If anybody claims that the prisoner was in pain, afterwards, we can just say that it was all in the prisoners head.
“...having all of these troubles getting the drugs to administer the lethal injection,”
I am having trouble understanding how there could be a shortage of such drugs. and have seen no explanation as to how this has occurred.
As I understand it, the manufacturers of the key drugs are European and the EU has passed laws that forbid selling them to the UD.
I can see how that would happen given the FDA’s hyper ultra super stringent long drawn out.....approval process
I am right with you on punishing evil, but why are you not willing to hold government responsible for this most serious of issues?
By pointing out one instance where the government was right, you are also pointing that they are often wrong.
Then toss in the inherent corruption of government and it is hard to understand placing blind faith in these same institutions you rail against on other less significant issues
We all want them out of our lives because they are incompetent at everything they touch, yet so many of my conservative friends have no problem with the government deciding who should be executed without holding their feet to the fire.
What is wrong with holding prosecutors responsible? They are elected officials who justify their existence by citing their conviction rates.
This sets up a situation where they will push for a conviction even if they find out the accused is innocent. This is an impossible scenario for me to support.
In a case like Nifong, a long prison sentence is clearly justified, but prosecutors shouldn’t stand in fear of endless frivolous and malicious lawsuits.
Nifong-ism arose because the government got into the habit of catering to base habits and raw political expediency. It is incumbent on the electorate to punish abuses of power, and to limit government power. But in the Land of Obama, abuse of power, lawlessness and political expediency have become he norm. You are probably right, our next attorney general will probably try to have the Koch brothers executed and Mumia Abu-Jamal awarded the Medal of Freedom.
You’re right, they were invented for that reason.
Personally, I would prefer to execute prisoners by nitrogen asphyxiation, which is how many pounds kill unwanted stray animals.
Saves the taxpayers money and keeps the dogs happy with fresh meat.
Only if use “green energy”
Have to look out for environment.......
Don’t confuse the abuses of the system with the advent of Obama. This corruption is woven into the fabric of our justice system.
Pointing to Obama clouds the issue and makes it worse for all Americans.
Making things partisan in a case like this is a great disservice to us.
The problem preceded him and will continue well after he is a bad memory.
Too many Americans across the political spectrum point to one side or the other while the state screws us both. The powers-that-be love this and we continue to say thank you sir may I have another.
No, I am agreeing. Obama is symptom, a carrier, an instance, not a cause. Obama is intellectually sterile and inert, he is a reflection of society, not a shaper.
Thanks for the info. I didn’t know that.
Whats wrong with Ole Sparky?
And then, good people have to linger through painful diseases and injuries for weeks to years before they pass on. No, I'm not suggesting euthanasia.
I'm with the poster above, kill them in the same way they killed their victims. Or hang them on Pay-Per-View so all the other scumbags can watch.
Actually I'm conflicted about capital punishment because I would prefer them to do VERY hard back breaking labor breaking big rocks into little rocks for the rest of their sh*tty lives, but the bleeding hearts think that is too cruel. Nowadays death is too easy for them and takes way too long. I could live with a firing squad, but prefer they be sliced and diced as many do to their victims.
Sue me for having no compassion for those who deserve it. Our extraordinary military men and women go through so much more with lost limbs and facial disfigurement, et al.
Last though, if they can’t do extremely hard labor and be miserable for the rest of their lives, I would take a flame-thrower to them. Yes, I would probably throw up after, but later feel satisfied some pedophile rapist murderer went to a horrible death. Tough sh*t.
Go to the nuclear testing facility in Nevada. Gather all the prisoners to be executed at the bottom of the mine shaft in a large room. Put a nuke in the center of the room with a big countdown timer that all of the prisoners can see. When the timer gets to zero, BOOM! Everything is vaporized in less than one one-hundredth of a second. No blood! No mess.
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