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To: MosesKnows

We’re thinking in 20th century terms. Socialism is one thing, fascism is another, communism is yet another. In the 20th century, when nations were trying all three, we drew boundaries between each so we could clearly say, “This is socialist, but that is fascist.”

In the new world where information has value and people will actually pay for purely intellectual property (downloaded games, streaming video, e-books, etc), the old definitions of “property” get shady and useless.

The Progressive will say that Obama is not socialist because he allows for private ownership of the means of production and he is not communist because he allows you to own your home and he is not fascist because he does not fully control industry.

But, in the 21st century, we have a president who does think that wealth should be shared and that industry should be tightly regulated and that businesses should be forced to pay wages far above what the work is worth. He thinks that people should be forced to buy insurance just for breathing. He is socialist, communist, and fascist—and by the strict 20th century definitions, he is none of them.

Eventually, the Progs will invent a term for the Obamunism that we are entering into. Count on it to be focus group tested, and inoffensive to as many people as possible.

But, it will certainly be a hybrid of socialism, communism, and fascism.


16 posted on 01/14/2014 1:11:24 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Bryanw92

Well stated. The old communist, fascist, socialist labels were from a different era and worked to a degree then. Today like with some physical diseases, it rapidly adapts and takes advantage of all three.
We are getting hit with the unholy love child of a Mao, Stalin, and Hitler threesome.

Obama and his supporters do not feel bound to any particular “ism”. They only have one goal, total power, and that they control any aspect of your life they decide to.

We have the surveillance state of the East German Stasi. Many Obama bureaucrats and nominees are proven to be steeped in Maoist thought and even admit it in public speeches. And like Stalin, they know that it only matters who counts the votes.
The thing that strikes me, is that the lid would stay on if they simply left ordinary Americans alone and concentrated on concentrating their power and wealth, and played their international games.

But I don’t believe that will happen. They seem hell bent on revolutionary change and bringing home to Americans who simply want to be left alone. The propaganda sessions naming Christians as a hate group, the portrayal of TEA as an enemy for war game exercises when it was historically always “Orange Republic” or some such. The messianic zeal for pushing homosexuality on us,, such as gay weddings at West Point. NDAA military arrest powers,,etc.

The left does not realize there is a point that’s simply too far, and they are going for all the marbles. Traditional Americans have a point beyond which they will not be pushed.
A collision is guaranteed unless one side gives up their core values. Where is the flashpoint? Nobody knows,,

It all just comes down to preparing now for anything, and not putting it off for the future when it could be too late.

A few decades ago, I never thought id see America sink into an authoritarian government. Its very sad. Obama is a foreign enemy. Foreign in thinking, no matter where he was whelped.


23 posted on 01/14/2014 1:32:11 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Bryanw92
He is socialist, communist, and fascist—and by the strict 20th century definitions, he is none of them.

The differences between national socialism, soviet socialism, fascism, and Obama's modern socialism are trivial - packaging, not substance. The bottom line is socialism, with absolute government power over what individuals do with their lives and over how their productivity is distributed. I prefer the freedom that comes with a small government. Slavery has never made people happy, and socialism is effectively slavery.

34 posted on 01/14/2014 1:57:00 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Bryanw92

Obama and his brand of socialism in fascist.


40 posted on 01/14/2014 2:15:46 PM PST by stockpirate (It appears good men have decided to do nothing, so evil is prevailing......)
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