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One Nation Under Drugs
Townhall.com ^ | January 13, 2014 | Scottie Hughes

Posted on 01/13/2014 11:39:29 AM PST by Kaslin

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To: Kaslin

Drug use has caused all this excrement we are dealing with since the 60’s.

Is just snowballed.

Drugs are what did in our nation.


61 posted on 01/13/2014 1:38:12 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: ifinnegan

It is one of the symptoms for sure.

The left has dumbed down this country to the point where everything EXCEPT decency and standards are acceptable to the masses


62 posted on 01/13/2014 1:38:59 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: WayneS

Nope. Sorry, you still Fail.

You could not win your argument by staying on topic, so you introduced a new “bait and switch” diversionary tactic to try and build up your weak arguments.

Here try this: It doesn’t work either, but stamp your foot - call me a doody-head and tell the teacher on me.

Its all the same.


63 posted on 01/13/2014 1:39:37 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: discostu
Once he declared “Just say no” a success we knew this article was a pack of lies and BS.

I'm very curious by what standard "Just Say No" could be deemed a success? If it was the lowering in price and the heightening in potency, then it was a great success!

The worst consequence of JSN was that it treated all drugs equally. Marijuana was just as bad as heroin which was just as bad as crack. When the children of JSN grew up, went to college, smoked weed and didn't see their lives instantly destroyed, they knew they had been lied to. And if marijuana isn't that bad, maybe heroin isn't that bad either? And heroin would make a resurgence in the early 90s with devastating consequences.

64 posted on 01/13/2014 1:41:08 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Drew68

By lying to kids about the dangers of drugs it taught them not to trust the government. That’s about the only success I can think of.


65 posted on 01/13/2014 1:48:30 PM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Twice now you have laughed and sneered at these conservative values.

And I did that where?

Tell us. What else do you hate? Tea Parties? The Constitution? Freedom of Speech?

Since you bring up the Constitution, where exactly in the Constitution do you see the authority for Government to regulate what people put in their bodies?

Alcohol causes physical sickness, lost productivity, car accidents, broken families & on & on. Would you be OK with alcohol prohibition?

(Really, though, it's clear on the War on (Some) Drugs threads you're just a troll so I'm not waiting for any keen insights or answers from you).

66 posted on 01/13/2014 1:48:52 PM PST by gdani
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To: Kaslin

More legal marijuana means more dumbass Obama voters. All the narcotics out there (illegal drugs) is part of the reason Obama and the Democrats have the upper hand.


67 posted on 01/13/2014 1:50:57 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Responsibility2nd

It’s called an analogy. It’s got nothing to do with “bait and switch”. I provided a direct analogy and it is apt one.

By the way, it was you who resorted to name calling, not I.


68 posted on 01/13/2014 1:53:11 PM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: discostu
By lying to kids about the dangers of drugs it taught them not to trust the government. That’s about the only success I can think of.

And the same kids who were lied to by Nancy Reagan are now adults and voting to legalize marijuana.

69 posted on 01/13/2014 1:53:46 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Responsibility2nd

You didn’t answer the question which tells me you are knee jerk reactionist and not someone that rationally thinks through such issues. Liberals do that. I don’t.


70 posted on 01/13/2014 1:55:18 PM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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To: ifinnegan

Drug use was far higher in 1900 and somewhat before. We were am fine nation then without nearly the loss of freedom and liberty we have today.


71 posted on 01/13/2014 1:57:49 PM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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To: Kaslin
Unfortunately, many traditional Conservatives are also getting on the drug bus because they have bought the Democrat lie that the money collected by drug users could be fiscally beneficial. In the most recent year, Colorado generated $9.1 million in retail sales tax from the sale of medical marijuana. This figure is bound to grow with the introduction of recreational sales and the additional 25% in excise and sales taxes since becoming legal on January 1st.

Looking beyond just the tax revenue, the industry generates millions of dollars every year for the state from licensing and application fees. To apply for and obtain a license to run a medical marijuana facility serving more than 500 patients, for instance, the necessary application and license fees alone approach $40,000. Colorado has agreed to take this new revenue and use it for the education of its children and construction of new schools. Does this mean at 18 every high school graduate will be handed their diploma and a doobie with the instructions to get addicted in order to help fund future generations’ educations?

ROTFL!

72 posted on 01/13/2014 1:59:02 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Mikey

Great summary. Bookmarked.


73 posted on 01/13/2014 2:00:26 PM PST by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: Alex Murphy

They don’t want to wait until 18, and it won’t just be pot but meth, cocaine, heroin.. you name it


74 posted on 01/13/2014 2:00:33 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Kaslin

Check out the comments. People are telling Drug Warriors to get stuffed.


75 posted on 01/13/2014 2:02:37 PM PST by Ken H (What happens on the internet, stays on the internet.)
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To: dennisw
More legal marijuana means more dumbass Obama voters. All the narcotics out there (illegal drugs) is part of the reason Obama and the Democrats have the upper hand.

With respect, I can right now off the top of my head, think of at least three middle-aged lifelong recreational pot smokers with whom I have often discussed politics over the years, who are at least as Republican/conservative anti-liberal anti-Obama as we are, you and I.

With respect ... vote fraud is the PRIMARY reason Obama and Democrats have the upper hand. In my long experience with recreational pot smokers as well as recreational boozers, about EXACTLY the same proportion are liberal as are conservative. The choice of "high" has zero to do with their politics.

It is counterproductive to assume otherwise.

76 posted on 01/13/2014 2:03:55 PM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: CodeToad

Bee Ess.

LSD, MDMA hadn’t even been invented.

Pot smoking was little known outside certain subcultures.

Cocaine was known and abused as were opiates via smoking (rare) or in patent medicines which was common and that’s what I figure you are referring to.

Remember that song Wooly-booly? About Hadacol Haddie?


77 posted on 01/13/2014 2:06:01 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: WayneS
" I am talking about activities which do not harm other persons when practiced responsibly."

And what activities might those be?

I've never used marijuana, but I've worked with or around people who did, and from this I learned several things.

Marijuana stays in the users system much longer than does alcohol. The effects of Marijuana use will remain in the users system and affect his motor skills for over twenty-four hours, and alcohol's effects will usually be gone in no more than eight hours. As usual, I earned this one the hard way.

During the Vietnam War, I was making a heliborne assault on a mountainside when the pilot suddenly lost control and crashed the helicopter. There was a thorough investigation into the accident, and it was found that the helicopter crew had been smoking marijuana the night before and the pilot was still affected by it the following afternoon.

We learned the hard way in Vietnam that there might be a few things a person may be able to do after smoking marijuana but flying helicopters isn't one of them.

78 posted on 01/13/2014 2:10:09 PM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: ifinnegan
The same clap trap used to said about alcohol during prohibition.

Prohibition encouraged crime,
During prohibition, there were drive by shootings,

organized crime flourished during prohibition,

The Mafia quickly discovered a new source of income; bootlegging, which quickly became the primary focus of their operation. The American Mafia flourished in the Twenties.

The prohibition Era is where some of the nastiest syndicates and the most powerful bosses arose. Well known Mafioso such as Al Capone, Bugs Moran, The Purple Gang and the Chicago Outfit.

Fights like the Saint Valentine's Day Massacre occured. The "drive-by shooting" was invented during the twenties as well.

Supporters of the Temperance Movement believed that the men of early 20th Century were neglecting their families by spending all of their money on alcohol instead of important things like food.
Supporters also believed that drunkenness was a major source of crime. Most supporters were women (especially women who also fought for suffrage), churches and factory owners (who supported the movement in hopes that less men would come to work intoxicated and hinder production in the factory).

The passage of the 18th Amendment proved to be a mistake. Instead of reducing crime the ban on alcohol actually increased crime and created a more ominous form of organized crime. The mob was created and the American gangster was born. Gangsters like Al Capone made a fortune as bootleggers in which they transported and distributed illegal alcoholic beverages much like drug dealers do today.
Not only did they supply the local speakeasy with boozes, but they also used excessive "pressure" and force to make sure the their customers remained their customers and customers of other bootleggers became their customers. This ended badly for many saloon owners who were torn between two competing mobs that did not care for his personal safety

Prohibition ended in 1933 with the passage of the 21st Amendment which repealed the 18th Amendment. It received great support due to the state of depression of the U.S. at the time.

Organized crime, however, did not end. Prohibition began in order to make the U.S. a safer, better place. It failed miserably, but gave birth to a new problem before its demise-the mob in which still functions even today.

There are so many ignorant people today that actually believe the "War on drugs" is gonna make these united states safer, a better place. Can you believe that?

79 posted on 01/13/2014 2:12:23 PM PST by Mikey (He that refuses to know and exert his rights, doesn't deserve them.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Diabetes and other obesity-related diseases kill far more people in the U.S. every year than marijuana. Why is your call for restricting freedom in the name of "the common good" not support for Bloomberg's soda ban?

And, for the same reasons involving "the common good," do you support banning alcohol and tobacco? If not, why not? Again, there are many more deaths from alcohol and tobacco than from marijuana.

80 posted on 01/13/2014 2:12:45 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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