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Blue Cross Blue Shield: If Republicans kill a bailout for insurers, it’ll lead to single-payer
Hotair ^ | 01/11/2014 | AllahPundit

Posted on 01/11/2014 4:37:41 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

Anyone else get that sinking feeling that rebellion is the only option left?


41 posted on 01/11/2014 6:09:21 PM PST by vladimir998
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To: SeekAndFind


42 posted on 01/11/2014 6:14:37 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: SeekAndFind

That was the whole point of passing ObamaCare....that’s why nobody had to read what was actually in it.

They knew it was just an intermediate step to their ultimate goal, single payer.


43 posted on 01/11/2014 6:15:54 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: SeekAndFind
"Risk corridor."

Wow. Those two words alone should make anyone turn around and run the other way. Holy cow, what platinum-plated tin-horn crap.

"Risk corridor." You screw with free market forces, you create a corridor right into a drain, like a sink.

As it is, the modern "market" for health insurance began in the first place because government screwed with the free market by disallowing certain pay levels without some penalty, so businesses started offereing health insurance as a non-income perk.

A generation later, it's an entitlement, a responsibility of employers and if not them -- why, the government!

"Risk corridors." I can think of a corridor these nationalized health care statists can shove up their ... bah!!

44 posted on 01/11/2014 6:15:56 PM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: lurk

It will be interesting to see if the blues try to keep this thing going and the private insurers bail out quick enough to stay solvent. Can this be done prior to the group mandates.


45 posted on 01/11/2014 6:26:17 PM PST by kvanbrunt2
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To: lurk

There won’t be companies entering the market if there is no money to be made. The feds have screwed it up.


46 posted on 01/11/2014 6:28:19 PM PST by plain talk
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To: cableguymn

It going to go to single payer anyway. Sounds like BCBS is trying to scam the taxpayers.


47 posted on 01/11/2014 6:32:43 PM PST by virgil
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To: SeekAndFind

Obamacare is working as planned. Pray for America and your children.


48 posted on 01/11/2014 6:42:03 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: TStro

BCBS was complicit in allowing the Tojan horse of Obama are to pass congress. Their naive stupidity astounds me


49 posted on 01/11/2014 7:17:15 PM PST by STJPII
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To: SeekAndFind

No more bailouts.


50 posted on 01/11/2014 7:17:21 PM PST by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: arthurus

Correct.

And not just inheritance, but liens can be placed against real property while you are still living. So, try to sell that house to fund your retirement with a lien against the property. The real fun is about to begin.


51 posted on 01/11/2014 7:21:38 PM PST by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: Hoodat

It ain’t a perfect re-enactment, but still you are begging the question. If the Blues won’t “repent” then they are going to soon be forced to sing the blues — along with the rest of us who will be looking as fondly back to them as we do to even our liberal American forefathers. Up to Republicans whether to be “hard assed” about it. I recommend not to be that way, given that we have to pull together to fix the situation of a recipe for the impossible that is called Obamacare. But there could be a contingent deal. Work out a return to private enterprise plan, or get starved out from those who will.


52 posted on 01/11/2014 8:42:18 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: al_c
Don't p!ss down my back and then try to tell me it's raining. I have a brother who works at a major healthcare provider. The company line was that they were 100% behind PPACA. I asked him why a healthcare insurance corporation would be supporting 0bamacare. Answer: "We are going to make a ton of money on this." He was gleeful. He's a complete libtard and was so happy that he capitalists were handing a noose to hangman.

Oh, and please check Forbes, IBD, or The Wall Street Journal if you have any doubt that healthcare insurance giants' stocks did indeed soar with the PPACA roll-out.

But this is the Internet, and just like you, I could be anyone. So don't take my word for it -- because I am most certainly not taking yours, which is 100% nonsense.

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/58320#.UtIbn55dUus

http://www.nhteapartycoalition.org/tea/2013/08/06/insurance-companies-helped-write-obamacare/

A few choice quotes, for your education:

Big insurers were omnipresent during the ObamaCare negotiations. Their most effective negotiator was Karen Ignagni, CEO of America’s Health Insurance Plans (AHIP), the industry’s leading lobby. Washingtonian magazine called her one of the top three “Top Guns” of all trade association heads, and she proved it with ObamaCare.

In March 2009, Ignagni promised President Obama: “You have our commitment to play, to contribute, and to help pass health care reform this year.” And play she did.

Ignagni and AHIP members participated in hundreds of meetings and spent millions of dollars to shape the final bill. Between January 2007 and August 2012, the political action committees of AHIP and the 11 largest health insurance companies gave $10.2 million to federal politicians, according to Federal Election Commission filings.

As for doctors? Yes many of the rank and file are absolutely against it. But the AMA, which represents about 40% of doctors, was indeed endorsing 0bamacare with a full throated roar.

53 posted on 01/11/2014 8:49:41 PM PST by FredZarguna (Das is nicht richtig nur falsch. Das ist nicht einmal falsch.)
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To: SeekAndFind

BRING IT !

It is inevitable that ObamaCommieCare must end badly.

Let it be now so my Grandchildren are spared the cruel effect of ObamaScoialized Health Insurance Tax, or OSHIT!


54 posted on 01/11/2014 8:52:23 PM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: FredZarguna

Sounds like a lot of folks are going to get lessons in the consequences of being clueless, in the school of hard knocks.

As much as we might like to push that whole gaggle of complicit insurers down the stairs, however, unless somehow we can reinvent the healthcare finance world completely independently before the Blues become a fond memory, we are stuck having to redeem that resource. I mean what else would you really do, once YOU return to reality?


55 posted on 01/11/2014 8:54:38 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

...I mean, there is an advantage to being known as the guys who saved their skin. They will probably eat out of your hand for a good long time.


56 posted on 01/11/2014 9:01:26 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I know, right?

Because for years after the Eighteenth Amendment, no one could buy a drink anywhere.

Long before the insurers are in any danger of going under, they will be able to exert the kind of pressure for repeal that they exerted for passage IN SPADES.

What they expect is that no one is going to call their bluff. Sorry, I'm not folding without calling them. Given what the government has done with healthcare so far, there is going to be absolutely ZERO pressure to pass a single payer plan. Whatever happens to existing insurers, there is never going to be any pressure to do that. The pressure for single payer will become enormous if we curl up like a bunch of puss!es and give them what they want, while Rat politicians scream for years about how taxpayers and "the Republican Plan" are holding up Big Healthcare.

No thanks. What reality do you live in?

57 posted on 01/11/2014 9:08:54 PM PST by FredZarguna (Das is nicht richtig nur falsch. Das ist nicht einmal falsch.)
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To: arthurus

In a decade or so they’ll run out of property to seize. Then what? Idiots!


58 posted on 01/12/2014 1:54:01 AM PST by poobear (Socialism in the minds of the elites, is a con-game for the serfs, nothing more.)
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To: ilgipper
A one page bill would avoid that. Health care freedom to let businesses sell what they want and businesses and employees make their own decisions.

If this one page bill doesn't work, I highly doubt one drafted by the current Congress will.


59 posted on 01/12/2014 2:02:29 AM PST by Rodamala
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To: TStro
This was the plan all along.

Yep. We either pay for the bailout or we pay for "free" insurance for everyone. Part of obama's removal of the middle class.

60 posted on 01/12/2014 4:04:09 AM PST by Right Wing Assault
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