Can you tell me more about the church’s claim to be “pillar and foundation of truth”?
As Crazy Evangelicals we beg to differ. We view our (and your) rightful role as being messengers. Never dictators. It’s only logical anyhow; you can’t get any truth unless it’s from God. You and I can’t “make” truth. We propose and God disposes. When walking hand in hand with God it is the same thing. But it’s possible NOT to walk hand in hand.
-— Can you tell me more about the church’s claim to be “pillar and foundation of truth”? -—
It’s in the Bible.
Jesus also said, “if he won’t listen to the church, treat him as a pagan or tax collector.”
This passage is loaded with significance.
First, we know that Christ had established a visible church during His life on earth. Moreover, His Church must teach with His authority, otherwise It could contradict Him.
Finally, we also know that “the gates of hell” will not prevail against His Church, so Christ’s visible Church must still exist.
“Can you tell me more about the church’s claim to be “pillar and foundation of truth”?”
1 Timothy 3:15 — “but if I should be delayed, you should know how to behave in the household of God, which is the CHURCH of the living God, the PILLAR AND FOUNDATION OF TRUTH.
You’re welcome. Take it up with Timothy. And of course Jesus who didn’t just throw down a NT yelling “Good luck, y’all as He ascended! Matthew: 16:18-18 — “And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I build my CHURCH, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven; and whatever you loose on earth, shall be loosed in heaven.” And ponder that when God renames someone [like he did Abram to Abraham, etc.] He does so for a big important reason! So Jesus definitely founded a church. Your mission, should you choose to accept, is to figure out which church that is. In my own estimation, I want to see which church goes back to Peter. I’ve come up with only one conclusion. Doesn’t mean others won’t be saved. They can be. But I want to reach out and have the fullness of the faith. Now it doesn’t mean there aren’t sinners in the church. ALL of the people in the church sin. It’s man’s nature. But we seek reconciliation and the sacraments. We can be forgiven. And do our best to try again. Popes go to confession too! “Infallible” in doctrine, doesn’t mean you are impeccable in sin!