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To: rolling_stone

Cockpit: I think Hollstein (swimmer) was in the cockpit across from the pilot (Kawasaki), because he said he couldn’t get the door open; they had to wait for Jacob Key to get his door open.

1A: is the gal facing the camera in post 45. She is an extra passenger that nobody told us about - not one of the 3 women we know about. She was flown by the HC-130 directly to Queens Hospital and everybody acted as if she didn’t exist.

1B: The 74-year-old woman because I think she would have been somewhat close to the 70-year-old if he was her husband.

2A: Fuddy

2B: the 70-year-old guy who was waving and smiling at rescue swimmer Mark Peer, by the process of elimination, because he’s wearing a brown shirt rather than the dark sweatshirt that Yamamoto wore or the white patterned shirt that Jacob Key wore.

3A and 3B: Rosa and Jacob Key, because they said in an interview that they were right behind Fuddy.

4A: Yamamoto, by the process of elimination

4B: Puentes, because he was videotaping it.


264 posted on 01/12/2014 1:47:39 AM PST by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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To: butterdezillion; rolling_stone; skip2myloo

Only trouble with this arrangement might be the balance. The heavy weight seems to be concentrated on the left side of the plane.

Hollstein (on the right) is lighter than Kawasaki.

Little 74-year-old woman (on the right) is lighter than the mystery woman.

70-year-old man (on the right) is lighter than Fuddy.

Jacob Key (on the right) is lighter than Rosa Key. (might be close; he’s taller; she’s wider)

Yamamoto and Puentes might be close in weight, depends on their heights. They’ve got similar builds, I think.

Which direction did the plane veer? I’d look it up but my computer’s not letting me see any of my Word documents right now. (sigh) I wonder how this arrangement would work with the plane’s center of gravity...


265 posted on 01/12/2014 1:58:03 AM PST by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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To: butterdezillion

Cockpit: I think Hollstein (swimmer) was in the cockpit across from the pilot (Kawasaki), because he said he couldn’t get the door open; they had to wait for Jacob Key to get his door open.
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possible, usually passengers don’t sit in cockpit but Holstein was accomplished flier and skydiver with 12,000 jumps reported by news. I don’t think he was travelling with a wife or that he would have left her.
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1A: is the gal facing the camera in post 45. She is an extra passenger that nobody told us about - not one of the 3 women we know about. She was flown by the HC-130 directly to Queens Hospital and everybody acted as if she didn’t exist.
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ok
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1B: The 74-year-old woman because I think she would have been somewhat close to the 70-year-old if he was her husband.
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disagree I think it was the other “tourist”
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2A: Fuddy
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yes
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2B: the 70-year-old guy who was waving and smiling at rescue swimmer Mark Peer, by the process of elimination, because he’s wearing a brown shirt rather than the dark sweatshirt that Yamamoto wore or the white patterned shirt that Jacob Key wore.
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I disagree I think Yamamoto was next to fuddy I haven’t been able to see the shirts in the plane.
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3A and 3B: Rosa and Jacob Key, because they said in an interview that they were right behind Fuddy.
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yes
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4A: Yamamoto, by the process of elimination
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disagree
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4B: Puentes, because he was videotaping it.
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clearly
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that makes 10 with the pilot by your figuring


276 posted on 01/12/2014 10:11:31 AM PST by rolling_stone
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