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To: Travis McGee

The brilliant T. Sowell says, “There are no solutions, only tradeoffs.” I think this is very nearly a concise summation of the conservative worldview.

The article is about the obvious fact that if there were more people walking around armed fewer mass shootings would succeed. Do you disagee?

So I try to start a discussion about what the tradeoffs in such a world might be. To which you and others respond by calling names and asserting there would BE no tradeoffs.

To some freepers guns are magic implements, the inverse of the liberal attitude. Guns cause good things to happen by their very presence, just as liberals think they track people down and murder them.

Guns are tools, like any other tool they can be used wisely or poorly. The more of them around and in use, like any other tool, the more misuses and accidents will occur.

But we’re not supposed to discuss such issues, because that would be cowardly. We’re supposed to pretend only good things happen with increased use of guns.


41 posted on 01/04/2014 6:11:31 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan
We’re supposed to pretend only good things happen with increased use of guns.

Airbags 'protect' us too, but then why are there warnings about them in my car?

43 posted on 01/04/2014 6:21:24 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Sherman Logan

>>Guns are tools, like any other tool they can be used wisely or poorly. The more of them around and in use, like any other tool, the more misuses and accidents will occur.

>>But we’re not supposed to discuss such issues, because that would be cowardly. We’re supposed to pretend only good things happen with increased use of guns.

I have used tools for my entire life. If you respect the capabilities and limitations of the tool, you will be safe. For every woodworker with 3 fingers on his hand, there are a million with 5.

Adding more guns to the mix may not be 100% perfect, but the shooter in an active shooter situation has already added one gun to the mix and that is certainly bad. So, you are right—to say that adding a few more in the hands of good people IS cowardly.


44 posted on 01/04/2014 6:36:09 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Sherman Logan; All

We will probably be lucky to get 10% of the population to carry. In some states the number of CCW permits (North Dakota, Washington) approaches this number. That is enough to inhibit most evil doers, and keep the number to the self selected. This happens anyway because a bit of self discipline and competence is intrinsically required to carry all the time.

We could likely prevent 2/3 of rampage/mass shootings if we simply prevented the MSM from promoting them.

http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2013/01/stop-school-shootings-hold-media.html


54 posted on 01/04/2014 8:54:40 AM PST by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: Sherman Logan
But we’re not supposed to discuss such issues,...

Horse Hockey! The problem isn't discussing such issues: it's your front loading of premises by which the discussion will proceed.....

67 posted on 01/04/2014 4:31:45 PM PST by papertyger ("refusing to draw an inescapable conclusion does not qualify as a 'difference of opinion.'")
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