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Hospital agrees to let Jahi McMath family take girl
SF Chronicle ^ | 03 Jan 14 | Henry Lee

Posted on 01/03/2014 4:17:39 PM PST by Drew68

Edited on 01/03/2014 4:20:22 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

The agreement, described in the Oakland courtroom of Alameda County Superior Court Judge Evelio Grillo, is the latest development in an unusual battle between the hospital and the girl's family, who has rejected declarations that Jahi is dead as a result of brain death.


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Here's the latest on this story. Looks like her family can take her out of the hospital. To where, who knows?
1 posted on 01/03/2014 4:17:39 PM PST by Drew68
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Alameda County Coroner issued a death certificate stating that Jahi died on Dec. 12,
2 posted on 01/03/2014 4:19:59 PM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Drew68
"Moral questions have a million answers," Straus said.

But only one correct one.
3 posted on 01/03/2014 4:23:30 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (Five years, my brain hurts a lot.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

That’s old morals.

We’re on New Morals now...


4 posted on 01/03/2014 4:24:54 PM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Drew68

I notice the SF Chronicle continues to report incorrectly that this young lady simply underwent a simple tonsillectomy. She had a tonsillectomy and uvulopalatopharyngoplasty.


5 posted on 01/03/2014 4:28:59 PM PST by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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To: C210N

What I can’t get is the hospital’s and the attorney’s condescending attitude to the family when they might well be on the hook for any negligence during the original operation.


6 posted on 01/03/2014 4:30:58 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (Five years, my brain hurts a lot.)
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To: C210N

In the old days, we called this ‘being in a coma’. The heart continued to beat, but there was no response and (sometimes) artificial respiration was necessary.

I do find it incredible and insensitive that they keep referring to her as ‘the body’. I didn’t believe it until I saw the hospital director actually say it on the news this morning.

Now this girl has had NO nutrition for more than three weeks. For three weeks, she’s been starved while in an injured state. Why is it so important to the hospital for this girl to be dead??


7 posted on 01/03/2014 4:34:46 PM PST by Marie (When are they going to take back Obama's peace prize?)
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To: Drew68

Put her in a wheelchair and take her down to the car.


8 posted on 01/03/2014 4:35:19 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Drew68

Maybe a weird Munchausen syndrome by proxy going on?


9 posted on 01/03/2014 4:35:26 PM PST by windcliff
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To: Dr. Sivana

They know a suit is coming. Not much that they can do about that now.


10 posted on 01/03/2014 4:36:13 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Dr. Sivana

Because it’s expensive to keep a brain dead human alive. I suspect the family is using it as a sort of punishment and extortion scheme hatched by their lawyer.


11 posted on 01/03/2014 4:36:30 PM PST by Usagi_yo
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But only one correct one.

Which is that sadly, she's dead, and has been dead for some time now.

12 posted on 01/03/2014 4:36:58 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Marie

She is neither in a coma nor in a permanent vegitative state. They refer to her as a body because she was formally pronounced dead by the county coroner almost a month ago.


13 posted on 01/03/2014 4:40:59 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Drew68

I have to think that the necrotic brain tissue is decaying, with those degradation products seeping into the blood stream and poisoning the rest of the body. Besides, without central nervous system feedback, the remaining organs must also be decomposing.

I know this is morbid, but does anyone know how long a dead body can be maintained in such a manner? I would think that since she was declared dead on Dec. 12, it is getting close to the limit.


14 posted on 01/03/2014 4:41:14 PM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: PAR35

Weekend at Bernie’s?

(OK that was in poor taste, but this is macabre. She’s DEAD.)


15 posted on 01/03/2014 4:41:43 PM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Scoutmaster

This is what passes for journalism these days.

And I’m certain there is far more to this story than any of us will ever know.


16 posted on 01/03/2014 4:41:53 PM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: Scoutmaster

“uvulopalatopharyngoplasty”

I had this done 15 years ago and it was terrible. I bled horribly and still bleed from time to time these many years later. The tonsillectomy isn’t what got this poor girl. Prayers for her family.


17 posted on 01/03/2014 4:43:00 PM PST by Owl558 (Those who remember George Santayana are doomed to repeat him)
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To: Marie
In the old days, we called this ‘being in a coma’. The heart continued to beat, but there was no response and (sometimes) artificial respiration was necessary.

There's a world of difference between being in a coma and being brain dead. People in comas (now referred to medically as "persistent vegetative state") still have brain activity, however little that might be. Their brains still receive oxygen from the blood. In Jahi's case, there is no cerebral activity whatsoever. Her brain is dead. It is not receiving blood circulation. It is decomposing.

Now this girl has had NO nutrition for more than three weeks. For three weeks, she’s been starved while in an injured state.

She's not injured. She's dead.

18 posted on 01/03/2014 4:44:14 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Marie

A person in a coma has a living, functioning brain, and responds to certain stimuli. Sometimes, comatose people are aware of their surroundings, but are unable to communicate or move.

This girl, sadly, is not in a coma. She is dead, and her body is being kept on life support because her mother cannot accept the reality. No one ever comes back from being dead (with one historical exception).


19 posted on 01/03/2014 4:44:21 PM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Marie

So they’re not on the hook for a couple of decades of very expensive care. That’s why.


20 posted on 01/03/2014 4:44:50 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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